So you are aware that Knock, in Alter Aeon, does not work the way it is supposed to.
On 1/10/17, Keith S <[email protected]> wrote: > online, 3...paper and pencil 5 or 6 > > Keith > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Justin Jones > To: Gamers Discussion list > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:08 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell > > > Bash door would be okay, actually, but not as a skill. It ought to be > something that anyone can do, it is strength-based and can only be > done to certain doors. > > Also, I am fine with doors that specifically require a key to open. > Not every door ought to be pickable/knockable (it's a word now, > so...), but the majority of them ought to be (and, from what I can > tell, they are). > > I don't mean to be condescending with this question, Kieth, but how > many other role-playing games have you played? > > On 1/10/17, Keith S <[email protected]> wrote: > > at this rate, they might as well have a warrior skill like chop door or > bash > > door. > > > > Keith > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Justin Jones > > To: Gamers Discussion list > > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:10 AM > > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell > > > > > > Pretty much this. Every other role-playing game I have ever played > > (and I have played a lot of them) has the knock spell a guaranteed > > success when used. I understand the need for balance, but there are > > far better ways to accomplish this than the current one in use. > > > > The only way I would pick up Knock is if my primary was a Mage and I > > had a lot of Mage cast gear on. Even then, I am not certain if it is > > worth the pracs when I could simply take levels in Thief and the pick > > locks skill. > > > > On 1/10/17, Jude DaShiell <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Why not just have knock blow the hinge pins out of the door? > > > > > > On Tue, 10 Jan 2017, dark wrote: > > > > > >> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:26:00 > > >> From: dark <[email protected]> > > >> Reply-To: Gamers Discussion list <[email protected]> > > >> To: [email protected] > > >> Subject: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell > > >> > > >> Hi. > > >> > > >> I've been trying to do the drow city close to fort Magnitia, and > ran > > >> across a door that was locked. > > >> I tried the knock spell a bunch of times, and despite havig 25 int > and > > 18 > > >> dex couldn't get through at all. I've neglected learning lock > picking > > >> since as a druid mage I really should be using magic rather than > dex, > > >> however it seems that KNock pretty much is just lock picking with > a > > mana > > >> cost, which makes it a bit pointless, and also a problem if you > don't > > have > > >> high dex, indeed I got killed because I ran out of mana on the > bloody > > door > > >> (that and I didn't have a livoak at the time). > > >> > > >> I was therefore wondering if the knock spell could be made a bit > more > > >> effective as an alternative tto lock picking given that it costs > mana > > to > > >> use. Indeed what might be fun is if the knock spell, instead of > simply > > >> replicating the lock picking skill with a spell opened the door in > a > > >> different way, for example with the first casting having the mage > > >> concentrate and grasp the tumblers in the lock one by one before > > turning > > >> them, meaning knock would always work, but at an increased mana > cost. > > >> > > >> Heck necromancers could have a versio where they create a literal > > skeleton > > >> key out of harvested bones, which could be more efficient on mana > than > > the > > >> mage version, but require teeth. > > >> > > >> I know the game often has several ways of doing the same thing, > for > > >> example the spells candle, crystal light and continual light, but > it'd > > be > > >> really useful if in this case the spell did a little more than > just > > >> replicate lock pick and so could be a bit more useful to none > > thieves. > > >> > > >> All the best, > > >> > > >> Dark. > > >> --- > > >> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > > >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > > >> [email protected]. > > >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > > >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > > >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. > > >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of > the > > >> list, > > >> please send E-mail to [email protected]. > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > > > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > > > [email protected]. > > > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > > > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. > > > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of > the > > list, > > > please send E-mail to [email protected]. > > > > > > > > > -- > > Justin M. 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