Perhaps. And perhaps not. Everyone is working on what their produce, but I think it all goes back to you choosing, in your mind, how much work and effort deserves being paid for. People have different opinions on that. I do not tend to defend my friend, nore crytisize her, but am just stating facts. I have never played Judgement Day, so I can't say. I have played Super Liam though, the demo, at least, and it wasn't different from the many sidescrollers up to that point. Of course the rest are different, and that's why I choose to take a neutral position in this discussion, because it's going on a narrow ledge. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Munawar Bijani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven!
> My personal take on that last message is this: If you don't think it's > worth > paying for, why are you playing it in the first place? That shows that you > have interest in the game, and justifies you paying to get the product. > However simple the games are, developers spend quite a bit of time to > write > them. In the case of Judgement Day--although I didn't buy it because it's > not my style of game, but nothing toward Liam--there is a Trophy system > which probably has quite a bit of condition testinb behind it to give the > player the enjoyment of periodic rewards to encourage them to go on, or to > give them an occasional laugh. Things from correct sound positioning to AI > coordination take a lot of time to get right, even though it all seems > automatic from the player's stand point; all these things are ACTUALLY > WRITTEN in the physical sense, and Judgement Day is no exception. > > In short, this "it's not worth paying for" attitude comes from the fact > that > a lot of players don't appreciate the cost and time put into the > products--they're looking at one side of the coin, that they have to spend > money to play. Of course this is common human nature so there's not much > that can be done about it, until the player in question becomes a > developer > themselves. > Munawar A. Bijani > Are you certain you will awaken from bed tomorrow? > Never assume something of which you lack strong knowledge. > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.bpcprograms.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Liam Erven > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:16 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! > > > that is certainly someone's opinion. but I disagree. I work very hard on > the projects I produce, and so I find it kind of arigant to say something > isn't worth paying for. > But then, that's someone's opinion. so. what ever floats their boat. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Parham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:09 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! > > > Lol! I don't think it's only Liam's games that are cracked, anyway. > Besides, > whatever one does, someone would come and crack the program/game/whatever. > My friend tells me that she cracked the latest game of Liam, because she > thought it wouldn't be worth paying for. Since I do not play much of audio > games anyway, I refrain from giving my own personal opinion on the matter. > --- > Contact info: > Skype: parham-d > MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com > email: parham90 at GMail dot com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:30 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! > > > well, well... guess draconis wont mind if this is only 2 sounds, i mean, > well, no problems about two sounds.. and well, cracks happens, what can > we do, it's life > -----Mensagem original----- > De: "Matheus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Para: <[email protected]> > Data: 16 de Julho de 2008 22:56 > Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! > > agreed nicol! > -----Mensagem original----- > De: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Para: "gamers" <[email protected]> > Data: Terça, 22 de Julho de 2008 20:07 > Assunto: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! > > I've been checking the list archives and I noticed a thread where liam > complained about people cracking his games. > Well liam, I've noticed something which you might take care of. I'm not > trying to be insulting or rude > I'm just giving a friendly warning. > Well, I don't own monkey business myself but I play it sometimes on a > friend's pc. > I've noticed while playing the demo of super liam that the sound of the > monkeys dropping cocanuts is exactly the same as sounds in monkey > business. > That little musical sound is exactly the same as in level9 in monkey > business. > When you have to follow the monkey to the teleporter he makes that little > musical sound when you are close to him, when you get far behind him he > makes another sound. On the beach in the super liam demo I recognize that > same musical sound. > I heard that same sound when listening to raul playing super liam. > The sound as the cocanut is falling together with that little whisseling > sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in the jungle and campsite > in > monkey business. > That dish sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in monkey > business > and that whistling sound is the same as in monkey business when a cocanut > hits you . > Because in monkey business if you walk into a tree more than once then > you > get hurt. > So liam, you want to take care of that. I don't think draconis is going to > be happy if they learn that you are using some of their sounds. > Ok its not a big deal, its 2 little sounds that is the same as in monkey > business, but if you are concerned about copyright issues and cracking, > you > should really take care of those sounds by replacing it with original > sounds. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1568 - Release Date: 23/07/2008 > 06:55 AM > > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. 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