Thomas you said all I wanted to say here, but far better thein ever could.
Now I have not been concentrating gamers so where can I get mota from/ I
want to play the thing and will buy it, so can someone please point me in
the direction to download what ever is available? thanks in advance.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota
Hi Nicol,
Well,talking about someone's religious views, opinions, and beliefs is a
sensitive issue for this list. We have specific guidelines in place to
prevent listers, including the moderators, from flaming anyone based on
his or her race, religion, or gender. So I'll try and tread carefully, and
I hope I don't step on anyones toes when i do.
As you are probably aware there are several different opinions out there
what defines living a good, moral, religious life. I've met my share of
Christians who lead very laid back liberal lives, and I have met my share
of Christians who are extremely rule bound. Based on what I've read in
your e-mail your mom is the very rule bound type who sees sin, evil, in
everything and anything that isn't specifically religious. Especially,
games she doesn't like. Believe me when I say I know all too well what
that is like.
My wife's family, my in-laws, are a lot like your mother. I love Star
Wars, and my in-laws claim it is Satanic. I like the Harry Potter books,
and my in-laws say that is Satanic. I like a mixture of Country and Rock
music, and my in-laws say all music that isn't religious in nature is
sinful. Since they view most television shows as sinful the only stations
you can watch at there house is Home and Garden, DIY, Trinity
Broadcasting, and anything else with religious or home repair type
programming. You wouldn't catch them dead with programs such as Law and
Order, CSI, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, whatever. In my personal opinion I
think people like my wife's parents are obsessed and fanatical about
religion. However, it is their choice to live that way and I must respect
them for it even if I completely disagree with them about their point of
view.
So here is the point of this message. In regards how to handle your mom
regarding your choice in games weather it is Shades of Doom, Mysteries of
the Ancients, or something else you are not going to be able to convince
her to see things exactly your way. Having dealt with my in-laws, which
have a similar view about video games, she's already made her mind up that
these games are bad, sinful, evil, whatever name you want to call it. The
best thing you can do in a case like that is try to agree to disagree. Try
to look for areas you can compromise on without totally surrendering to
her views.
For example, your mother asked you not to play these kinds of games on her
computer, read e-mail about them on her computer, whatever. Since that is
her computer, she finds the material offensive, respect her by not putting
that kind of material on her computer. However, if you download and play
games on your own personal computer then your mom needs to respect your
right to do so provided it is on your own computer not hers. You are a
fully grown adult, and your mom not only needs to respect that, but needs
to learn she is no longer responsible for your choices and decisions. I
think most Christians would agree with me that your mom and the elders of
your church have absolutely no right to invade your privacy, remove stuff
from your computer they disagree with, all in the name of religion. That's
just flat out wrong, and falls under the category of religious abuse.
Anyway, as for the deeper question, "is Mysteries of the Ancients sinful
to play," I'm pretty sure it is not sinful. Your mother's opinion that
Mysteries of the Ancients has to do with idolatry is simply ridiculous,
and is pretty far fetched. This is a perfect example of someone who shoots
off their mouth and haven't a clue what they are talking about. All the
while believing themselves to be holier than thou.
First of all, idolatry by definition is the worship of idols. If I made
you a statue and told you to pray to it that would be idolatry. If I made
you a cross, a picture of Jesus, or anything else religious and told you
to pray to it, worship it, instead of God that would be idolatry. If I
told you I was a god, told you to worship me instead of God, that would be
idolatry. Since you don't worship my game, at least I hope you don't, that
isn't idolatry. It is simply entertainment. Nothing more and nothing less.
As for your mother getting upset over the word tomb in the title that is
irrational as it gets. Sure tombs are burial places for the dead, but many
are very interesting to study and explore. The Egyptian pyramids once were
used as tombs, and thousands of people have explored them over the years.
They have stood on the Giza plateau for the passed 4,000 years and still
are marvels to study and explore. There are plenty of other tombs equally
as interesting, and there is nothing sinful, evil, or wrong with studying
ancient tombs. As someone who has a deep love of history, archeology, and
ancient myth I personally find it interesting to step back in time and
find out how people lived, what they believed, what they ate, and how they
died.
Unfortunately, there will always be people who are so personally obsessed
with their own religion that they condemn everything else they believe is
contrary to their religious point of view. We saw this with the
destruction of the Library of Alexandria, the mass burning of bibles
during the reformation, and countless other cases of where books and other
written materials were destroyed because of someone's religious view that
this or that was sinful and therefore needed to be destroyed. One Islamic
general put it this way, "if it agrees with Allah it is not required. If
it disagrees with Allah it is not desired."
In other words he was justifying the mass burning of books and other
written documents because his religion, his opinion, his views were the
only ones that counted. So all documents that didn't agree with his
religion had to be burned in almighty Allah's name. I've met people like
my in-laws that would do the same to Star Wars, Harry Potter, and any
other book or game they felt was sinful or evil. I'm suspecting from what
you wrote in your message your mother is another one who doesn't
appreciate ancient works like the Iliad, Odyssey, etc because it wasn't
written from a Christian point of view, and would happily toss it into the
trash or fire instead. That's a real shame, and a very narrow minded point
of view.
In conclusion I honestly don't know what to tell you that will help with
your mother. In my personal experience people like her aren't very
rational or open minded to start with. As long as she is convinced this is
some great evil invading her home, drawing her son away from the Lord, etc
she is going to continue to fight you on this regardless if she is right
or wrong by doing so. If this continues to be a problem the best advice is
to move out of your mother's home and live somewhere where you can make
those kind of decisions without being constantly punished for it.
HTH
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