I have never had to turn either Window-Eyes or System Access off when playing 
almost any game. Yes, you do here some random chatter when you press keys, but 
that is all. There is no conflict with the keyboard, unless you use a hotkey 
that the screen reader uses.

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On 
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:28 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Q9 and screen readers was: XP Gamer Woes (?)

Just as a vaguely informational point, with hal there is never any need to 
actually shut the program down.

The voice can be turned off with ctrl 0, and at that point all commands 
which do not directly interfere with hal's own commands are absolutely fine 
to use, --- in fact the only real reason to turn the voice off is to stop 
random chatter throughout the game.

In games which use the number pad, ----- or the F keys when playing on a 
laptop, and thus conflict with Hal's own commands, it's also necessary to 
turn Hal's keys off with ctrl 8 after turning the voice off.

Sinse ctrl space is needed to enter Hal's control panel, --- it's necessary 
to do this in Q9 as well, ---- though it's not really a problem.

I believe the reason hal can stil run and not conflictwith games etc is 
something to do with the way hal handles keystrokes being different to the 
way Jaws (or I believe window eyes), does, ---- but I'm not sure.

this is just some extra information, sinse I've noticed a lot of developers 
automatically instruct players to shut down their screen readers before 
playing as a matter of course, ---- which obviously isn't as necessary with 
Hal.
Probably because i'm used to it, I admit I like Hal's system, sinse it means 
I can very literally start a game up, then flick off Hal's voice and 
possibly keys if needed while the game is running, ---- and don't have the 
bother of having to setup short cuts or some other way of starting the games 
without being able to read the screen.

btw, this isn't intended as a Hal vs jaws bash, ---- such conversations are 
rarely useful, ----- particularly with someone like me who's used Hal for so 
long, I'm incredibly used to the way it does things, ---- and would find 
different methods slightly confusing, ---- the couple of occasions I've had 
chance to play with a system with Jaws installed on it were not happy ones 
exactly for this reason.

Beware the grue!

Dark. 


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