Hi,
Um...I'm sorry but--Josh changed the name do to a girlfriend? That's
bizarre.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 9:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Where have all the developers gone?

Not only that but Philip's in college is he not?
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Where have all the developers gone?


> Hi Dark,
> Oh, I've noticed this trend as well. i think everyone has that has
> been around this community long enough. Obviously, I've been hear a
> lot longer than you have, at least 10 years or so, and I've seen a lot
> of developers come and go. Some of them were pretty major for a while.
> Back when I discovered the Audyssey magazine and this list, this would
> have been around 1999 or 2000, game developers were just beginning to
> make the switch from Dos to Windows based games. The major developers
> at the time were PCS Games, Kitchens Inc, GMA Games, and ESP. I think
> BSC Games was just getting started too.
> At the time PCS Games had created a rather impressive catalog of Dos
> games like Monopoly, Kick Boxing, Panzers in North Africa, etc.
> Unfortunately, Kevin left PCS Games, and the market was shifting to
> Windows based games. Phil eventually acquired the GMA Engine and
> produced Packman Talks, Sarah, and Super Dog Bone Hunt. All good
> games, and is still an active member of our community. However, PCS
> isn't as active as it once was.
> As for ESP I think we all know the story there. James North decided to
> quit, turned control over to Josh, and it was renamed Adora
> Entertainment. Eventually Josh has some personal issues with a former
> girl friend, I believe it was, and he ended up renaming it Draconis
> Entertainment. While the software has been faithfully maintained and
> sold via Josh under one company name or another Draconis really hasn't
> yet put out anything truly new in years. All of their releases like
> ESP Pinball Extreme, the ESP Pinball Party Pack, Christmas Whoopass,
> and Ten Pin Alley, were all released quite a long time ago. I know
> they have something in the works for Mac, but still the fact remains
> when the company was still ESP James North was cranking out games left
> and right. Most of the Draconis product catalog is all James North's
> handywork.
> As for GMA I think David has been fairly active over the past 10
> years. Considering the types of games he's produced like Tank
> Commander, Shades of Doom, Time of Conflict, etc I can certainly
> understand why there are long delays between releases. They are not
> the types of games a developer can slap together in a couple of weeks
> and sell left and right. They take considerable time and effort so I
> still see GMA as pretty major even if they aren't producing games left
> and right.
> As for BSC you said yourself what the problem is there. When Justin
> started out he and Dan were cranking out games like Pipe, Troopenum,
> and Hunter. Then, eventually Dan whent off to make DanZ Games and
> Justin got a real job, and no longer has time to devote to BSC like
> the old days. However, there for a couple of years or so Justin and
> Dan had a pretty good run. I doubt we'll see BSC make a come back any
> time soon unless Justin has a drastic change in employment/change in
> his work schedule.
> In fact, out of all the game developers the only one who has
> consistantly released games practically on a yearly basis and is the
> bedrock of audio gaming is Jim Kitchen. His Dos games were the first
> accessible games I had ever heard of, and he is still producing games
> on a somewhat regular basis. I have to give Jim a lot of credit for
> hanging in here as long as he has. I know far too many accessible game
> developers who have came and went over the past 10 years or so.
> First, there is the now infamous Bavisoft. For a couple of years they
> made a name for themselves when they put out Grizzly Gulch and
> Chillingham. That was around 2003/2004 or so. After that they
> basically fell off the face of the earth, and haven't done anything of
> note since.
> Second, there was LightTech Interactive. That was a company that was
> going very far very fast. It is true they had very simple games like
> Light Cars, Light Locator, The Horse Racing Game, etc but they were
> learning. Their games were improving, getting better, more advanced
> and suddenly the developer doesn't want to do it any more. End of
> LightTech Interactive.
> Third, there is Alchemy Game Studios. As many here will remember James
> North briefly tried to make a come back had a pretty impressive list
> of game projects in the works like Montezuma's Revenge, ESP Raceway, a
> mouse demo, and Max Shrapnal. However, after a number of personal
> problems, plus an angry mob of upset customers, I took his game
> projects off his hands, and he dropped out of site. Probibly never to
> be heard from again I figure.
> Finally, we have DanZ Games. As I said before I remember Dan got
> started helping Justin with BSC Games and then he split off and
> created DanZ Games with a few projects of his own like Super Deecout.
> However, recently after getting a full time job etc he hung up the
> game programming gig, released everything as freeware, and dropped out
> of sight.  Not sure if he will ever return or not.
> And sadly those are just the major game companies I can remember that
> have come and gone. I don't count PB Games amung there number because
> obviously Philip Bennefall is still around, but PB Games has become
> Blastbay Studios. Not to mention of late Philip has been catching up
> for time lost, and is bigger and better than before.
> Anyway, to cut this very long post short i know exactly what you mean.
> The people who I thought were pretty major at times haven't turned out
> to be so major in the long hall. If you look to the 90's PCS and
> Kitchens Inc were the major developers of the time. Look to early 2000
> to 2005 GMA, ESP, BSC, PB Games, and Jim Kitchen were the major
> developers of the period. After 2005 until present the major
> developers were Lighttech Interactive until they quit, Jim Kitchen,
> L-Works, Blind Adrenaline, 7-128 Software, and very recently Philip
> Bennifall has become an extremely important developer with BGT, Q9,
> and Kryngal Crash.  Although I fit in to the 2005 to 2010 catagory
> myself I really haven't played a very big roll contributing to the
> community having had more bad luck than good. However, I have
> consistantly put out test builds which is something I guess.
>
>
> Smile.
>
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