No offense, but the only one here who has expressed anything even resembling
true negativity here is you. Some blind people enjoy mainstream games, some
don't. The people who enjoy mainstream gaming will comment on your podcasts.
The people who don't will not. It's that simple. So take a deep breath,
relax, and go play Street Fighter instead of berating those of us who choose
not to.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Yohandy
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 3:39 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.

It's not whether I accept it or not, it's the whole negativity surrounding
video games based on nothing but speculation and assumptions that I get
annoyed about.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Liam Erven" <liamer...@gmail.com>
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.


> Why can't you accept that there are people who aren't interested in video
> games. We are among a small minority who play them. I think you just have 
> to
> deal with that.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
> Behalf Of Yohandy
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:06 PM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.
>
> SO since you didn't have much success with mainstream gaming when you were
> younger, you just assumed ok I can't play this? you gave up, just like 
> that?
>
> you never considered trying the game for a while and try to figure things
> out? also I'm sorry to say, but you'll never find a mainstream game that
> caters to your extremely unrealistic specifications.
>
>
> From: "Philip Bennefall" <phi...@blastbay.com>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.
>
>
>> Hi Yohandy,
>>
>> I pretty much feel the same way as a lot of other people on this list.
>> If the game is not accessible enough to allow me to play without
>> sighted assistance, or requires me to learn everything by heart such
>> as all menu options etc before I can even begin, I quite frankly have
>> no interest in it. I did my fare share of controller punching myself
>> when I was younger just because I liked the sounds and wanted to
>> experience a fraction of what my friends were talking about all the
>> time. I didn't have much success, but that does not mean I have no
>> interest. Tell me a game that I can read the manual fore, install,
>> run, and play without requiring any help from someone sighted, and
>> also that will not run me 300 dollars for a console and 40/50 for the
>> game, and I will be more than happy to play. But I am not willing to
>> buy a console just because I might, with trial and error, be able to win 
>> a
> few times after countless attempts and assistance.
>> That is a sacrifice that I feel is not only huge, but fruitless.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Philip Bennefall
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Yohandy" <yohand...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:12 PM
>> Subject: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.
>>
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>    Ok I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I find myself getting extremely
>> frustrated with the blind gaming community. Why you ask? ok here goes.
>> I'm sure you guys have noticed I've been putting up some rock band 
>> samples
> up.
>> you've also noticed Clement has been putting up some street fighter IV
>> samples and various other samples. So why is it that when we ask for
>> feedback or comments on these samples we work hard to create, people
>> simply either ignore us completely, or the same 3 or 4 people are the
>> ones to always respond? well you know what I think the reason for that
>> is? simply that the games we post about are mainstream games, not
>> audio games. I've noticed that when a new audio game comes out, even
>> if it's the most simplistic game in existence, everyone's all jumping
>> to download it immediately and there are threads that span hundreds of
>> messages on the subject. But when we post something having to do with
>> console games, the thread dies in a matter of hours. I'm sure Clement
>> has been feeling this frustration as well. it's been leaking through
>> in his emails to the list even if he hasn't mentioned it outright. So
>> my question is this: what must we do to get you guys interested in
>> something other than topspeed 3, or any other audio game for that
>> matter? don't you guys have that spark of curiosity to find out
>> everything there is to find about video games? why is everyone
>> ignoring these games outright? This community has hundreds of members,
>> and only a very limited amount of people even talk about mainstream
>> games. it's all audio games, audio games, and more audio games.
>> there's so much more out there for you to find guys. how can you call
>> yourself a gamer when you aren't even willing to download the files
>> Clement and I put up to at least listen to what these games have to
>> offer? Whenever I put up a rock band sample, I get like 4 or 5
>> downloads at most. however I rarely get any feedback. I think you guys
>> are just shoving these files in your hard drives and don't even take a
>> listen. if you do, then you have the curiosity of a robot. I don't
>> know about Clement, but I'm not planning on putting anything else up.
>> What's the point? no one seems to care what we have to say, or have
>> any curiosity about console gaming. you guys just keep playing your
>> audio games and keep your closed-minded mentality about game
>> accessibility in general. If you think I'm taking things too far,
>> consider this: remember when Clement and I had that little Street
>> Fighter seminar? I finally thought that people finally had some
>> interest in what we had to say and in the game and such. we got some
>> really good questions, and over all had a really good time. but once
>> that seminar ended, what do you think happened? That's right.
>> absolutely nothing. people basically were like oh ok, that game had
>> awesome sounds and music and such. ok back to playing some tank
>> commander. at least, that's how I feel personally. it was fun as a
>> spur of the moment thing.
>> Now
>> let me ask you this. how many of you, after listening to that seminar
>> went over to gamestop and bought a copy of Street Fighter? or even go
>> to a friend's house and try the game out? My guess is 0. ok rant over.
>> I know this email is a mess lol, but it's just basically me writing
>> down my ideas as they come to mind. take from it what you will. for
>> those of us serious about gaming, we need to get together and figure
>> where we should take it from here. Do we give up, or keep trying? I'm
>> pretty tired of trying  my self when everyone's resisting to be honest.
> Good day everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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