Hi Philip, That's the thing, games don't have manual's anymore. When I was developing the tone game in the manual of BGT, I created the example but add something like a tutorial when the start game function is called. Want to wrap my head around sound positioning, so may do the second example and have a tutorial in that one and post it. But most games at the beginning have a tutorial level or levels which guide you through the operations of it, and then the real game begins.
Most games with a story make it sound as though the tutorial isn't there by implementing it well into the story. Orin [email protected] Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Feb 7, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Philip Bennefall wrote: > Hi Yohandy, > > I pretty much feel the same way as a lot of other people on this list. If the > game is not accessible enough to allow me to play without sighted assistance, > or requires me to learn everything by heart such as all menu options etc > before I can even begin, I quite frankly have no interest in it. I did my > fare share of controller punching myself when I was younger just because I > liked the sounds and wanted to experience a fraction of what my friends were > talking about all the time. I didn't have much success, but that does not > mean I have no interest. Tell me a game that I can read the manual fore, > install, run, and play without requiring any help from someone sighted, and > also that will not run me 300 dollars for a console and 40/50 for the game, > and I will be more than happy to play. But I am not willing to buy a console > just because I might, with trial and error, be able to win a few times after > countless attempts and assistance. That is a sacrifice that I feel is not > only huge, but fruitless. > > Kind regards, > > Philip Bennefall > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yohandy" <[email protected]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:12 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. > > > Hey guys, > Ok I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I find myself getting extremely > frustrated with the blind gaming community. Why you ask? ok here goes. I'm > sure you guys have noticed I've been putting up some rock band samples up. > you've also noticed Clement has been putting up some street fighter IV > samples and various other samples. So why is it that when we ask for > feedback or comments on these samples we work hard to create, people simply > either ignore us completely, or the same 3 or 4 people are the ones to > always respond? well you know what I think the reason for that is? simply > that the games we post about are mainstream games, not audio games. I've > noticed that when a new audio game comes out, even if it's the most > simplistic game in existence, everyone's all jumping to download it > immediately and there are threads that span hundreds of messages on the > subject. But when we post something having to do with console games, the > thread dies in a matter of hours. I'm sure Clement has been feeling this > frustration as well. it's been leaking through in his emails to the list > even if he hasn't mentioned it outright. So my question is this: what must > we do to get you guys interested in something other than topspeed 3, or any > other audio game for that matter? don't you guys have that spark of > curiosity to find out everything there is to find about video games? why is > everyone ignoring these games outright? This community has hundreds of > members, and only a very limited amount of people even talk about mainstream > games. it's all audio games, audio games, and more audio games. there's so > much more out there for you to find guys. how can you call yourself a gamer > when you aren't even willing to download the files Clement and I put up to > at least listen to what these games have to offer? Whenever I put up a rock > band sample, I get like 4 or 5 downloads at most. however I rarely get any > feedback. I think you guys are just shoving these files in your hard drives > and don't even take a listen. if you do, then you have the curiosity of a > robot. I don't know about Clement, but I'm not planning on putting anything > else up. What's the point? no one seems to care what we have to say, or have > any curiosity about console gaming. you guys just keep playing your audio > games and keep your closed-minded mentality about game accessibility in > general. If you think I'm taking things too far, consider this: remember > when Clement and I had that little Street Fighter seminar? I finally thought > that people finally had some interest in what we had to say and in the game > and such. we got some really good questions, and over all had a really good > time. but once that seminar ended, what do you think happened? That's right. > absolutely nothing. people basically were like oh ok, that game had awesome > sounds and music and such. ok back to playing some tank commander. at least, > that's how I feel personally. it was fun as a spur of the moment thing. Now > let me ask you this. how many of you, after listening to that seminar went > over to gamestop and bought a copy of Street Fighter? or even go to a > friend's house and try the game out? My guess is 0. ok rant over. I know > this email is a mess lol, but it's just basically me writing down my ideas > as they come to mind. take from it what you will. for those of us serious > about gaming, we need to get together and figure where we should take it > from here. Do we give up, or keep trying? I'm pretty tired of trying my > self when everyone's resisting to be honest. 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