Nicol,
There are two things I want to emphasise myself on this subject, and I want you to be crystal clear on them..
Number one.
You believe what you want to believe. Don't let anybody brain wash you into thinking that what I say goes and is the way forward in life. If you are taught to believe something and you choose to believe in it of your own free will, then that's fine. But then if you still choose to preach the reason for your unhappiness to us, then you are not going by your teachings, but by your own beliefs regarding them. If you want to believe that violent games is a way of showing love for violence, then you go ahead and believe that. Nobody's stopping you.
This brings me very nicely onto point number two.
Please do not try and force those views, opinions and beliefs upon us. Do not push a hose down our throats and turn the water on simply because we don't want to drink just yet. There are very few games out there for the visually impaired as it is, and the way you are talking may just send more developers crashing to the ground like so many others before. We should be thanking these guys for bringing their creations out into the world. I certainly know that I have been phased beforehand because of some of the thankless emails I have received complaining about certain features or lack thereof in my games and have, on more than one occasion, thought about simply ditching the whole thing. I'm glad I haven't, since I do enjoy making games. But I don't like some of the ingratitude that sometimes follows a release. What I always say is, if you simply don't like the game content, for whatever reason, whether it be your beliefs or anything that is personal, you know what you got to do. Just don't play it and stop moaning at us. If you have anything constructive to say about it, then by all means do so. But telling us to cut out the violence simply because it isn't in your religion certainly is not very constructive. It is more demanding and selfish, and independent developers, who aren't exactly doing it as a full time job, do not have neither the time nor the patience to be modifying the game content just for the sake of a petty complaint.
I will bring forth another point on a slightly less firm note.
I am myself a Christian, but I don't not play games just because they contain violence, whether in cartoon or gory fashion. My belief is that fictional violence is fine, since it is not exactly happening. It is just mixed up sound effects and graphics where applicable. But I'm not going to tell you to start playing these games because you should be believing the same as me. Also, I do not believe that playing violent game shows a love for violence. In fact, I am completely the opposite. If I see violence on the street, or indeed anywhere, I would be one of the first to put myself in between them and break it up. I have a partner whom I love very dearly and brothers and sisters, nieces and nephews, parents etc who always have my full support. And where new people are concerned, I'm as shy as anything. Does that suggest a love for violence to you?
There's another thing that God wants us to do.
Live and let live.
So why don't we all do that for a change, instead of getting into flame wars, and sometimes even real wars as far as countries are concerned, over the importance of religion?
OK, rant over.
Regards,
Damien.


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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 3:44 PM
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Clement, about the martial arts.
Well, its quite simple.
We are taught at our meetings  that martial arts is wrong in God's eyes.
Its as simple as that.
I am not part of the people who prepares the meetings, so I cannot tell you
why we are taught martial arts is wrong.
In our meetings there is no psychology, no complicated stuff.
Martial arts  is violence and we are taught, everything connected to
violence is wrong because god hates violence; as simple as that.


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