hi, actually i can pour water without the use of my finger and I never spill. I have zero sight. All that aside though, I agree with most of your points.

On 4/12/2011 7:09 PM, dark wrote:
Actually tom, while travel and access issues are certainly a
considderation, that wasn't precisely my point.

One easy example of what I mean (and one I use in the introduction to my
thesis), is pouring a glass of water.

Betwene desire for a drink and that desire's satisfaction the sighted
person has very few steps.

1, locate a glass which can be done instantaniously no matter where it
is so long as it is in plane view.

2, turn on the tap.

3, pour in water to the level required, a thing a sighted person can
judge without even paying attention sinse the connection betwene their
visual cortex and spacial awareness is perfectly able to judge this with
no conscious thought or need for concentration at all, indeed they may
use the time to think about other matters.
For a blind person, locating the glass will be a conscious exercise of
spacial mapping or memory, remembering and placing themselves in
relation to it, and pouring the water will require a continuous
concentration of the relation of their finger to the flow into the
glass, ---- and even when they get it, they have to be careful where
they put it and retain it's position in mind, or simply continue to hold

These are all fairly trivial things and things which I imagine everyone
on this list does every day.

My point however, is that the amount of concentration and mental effort
required is simply in and of itself greater when a person is visually
impared, this is simply a biological limitation beyond what is normal,
(I do have a deffinition of normal but that would take some time to
explain), and what society considders normal, and is ultimately a
contributing factor in why someone like oddbob of retroremakes can have
a job, a wife and children and! produce games and a website blog, while
a visually impared person can't.

this isn't to say a disabled person "can't" do things, only that those
things take considderably more time and effort because of their
disability and in any calculation of what is possible in life, or what
sort of responsability a government has to it's citizens, these factors
must be taken into account, ---- which they currently aren't!

Btw, I agree on public transport in continental europe, but in the uk
it's pretty dire, especially the train system, mostly due to some
tortuous privatization rules and ridiculous over pricing.

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