Hi Dark,

The TNG epasode you are talking about is called Skin of Evil. Tasha
Yar, Enterprise's head of security, gets killed trying to rescue
Dianna Troi, and at the end of the show Warf is promoted in her spot.
Which is definitely what made that series more realistic. Characters
could die, and did die on the show. There was no certainty that
character x would survive an away mission. Sheesh, Star Trek X proved
that when they killed Data which I didn't expect.

Basically, I agree with you that TNG was more credible as a sci-fi
series, because over all it took things more seriously. It wasn't
about punching aliens in the jaw and seeing if the captain could woo
the alien ladies. Instead, TNG, inparticular, always left you with
some moral imparative or lesson. You usually walked away from a good
show with something to think about that was thought provoking and
something to consider.

For instance, Data's constant quest to discover more about humanity,
how he could make himself more human, always left me with interesting
discoveries about myself. In Skin of Evil at the funeral  for Tasha
Yar Data asks why do people cry when a fellow officer dies. That
opened up a discussion of that we cry because we miss that person, but
that the person lives on forever inside of us. As long as we remember
them they are never further than our thoughts. Its not religious, but
is a thought provoking way to view death.

Basically, TNG explores a lot of issues like that, how should we
handle alien races, what would we do in a first contact situation,
what matters most to us, should we consider self-conscious robots like
Data a living being or a machine? TNG really seemed to get down to the
matter of what is the right thing to do and the wrong thing to do in a
given situation.  It explores the good points of humanity, and gives
helpful moral direction where humanity should go in the future. TNG
shows us a humanity who has over come our desire for personal wealth,
power, and who choose to explore the galaxy instead of fighting each

Interesting enough TNG also introduced some novel solutions that I
think would solve several issues today like divorce. In one of the
Star Trek books I read, can't remember which one, they talked about
marital contracts. Basically, as I understand it a couple who wanted
to get maried could sign a contract specifying the amount of time they
expected to last, and would agree before hand on how to end the marage
if it didn't work out. Think of how much that would solve if people
could agree before hand how to end the marage if the marage didn't
work out. Plus if there were short term contracts a couple could sign
for one year, and simply go their own way after that time when the
contract was up if things weren't working out between the partners.
Personally, I think this is a good idea, but some religious folks
might not agree.

Basically, what impressed me about TNG and beyond is the writers did
try to take serious issues and give real world answers and solutions
to them. Maybe they would work, and maybe they wouldn't. However, they
did provide possible solutions and ideas how we might handle issues
that seem to be a problem for humanity right now. Star Trek became so
much more than just about space exploration. The writers tried to
address serious social issues too.

As for the thing with the Borg and Enterprise I agree. It seems a bit
rediculous given all we know about the Borg that it would take them
100 years to get to Sector J-25 when Voyager managed to use a
Transwarp conduit to get home in the final epasode and was returned to
the Alpha Quadrant in a matter of minutes. Ummmm....Some Star Trek
writer was smoking some dope. Lol!


On 7/11/11, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
> Hi Tom.
> it's just that kind of thing I've heard about enterprise that puts me off
> actually paying money for the series, especially sinse it's pretty obvious
> this was just a case of "woopse! didn't watch the source material carefully
> enough!"
> Afterall, if the borg really had been summoned in Enterprise, ---- why did
> it take them so long just to get to system j25, when they can apparently get
> all the way from their home sector to Alpha quadrent within only a couple of
> years, especially with their transwarp technology.
> Insanity!
> For original trek though, I could accept the costumes, bad effects etc, ----
> even lots of the old dr. who stuff I like looks pretty dated now, it's more
> the atittudes plots and how the series works overall.
> Have you ever seen that sketch where Kirk is sitting on the bridge and says
> "for the next mission the away team will comprise myself, Mr. spok, Dr.
> maccoy, Lt ohura, Mr. Scot and crewman jones" where upon the crewman starts
> screaming "nooooo! I'm too young to die!" ;D.
> The problem was, this really did! happen in original trek rather too often,
> as opposed to tng where there is if my memory serves me an entire episode
> where a crew member dies on an away mission and warf and various others try
> to cope with her death.
> This is what I mean. Where as from the tng era starfleet is something with
> morals I can respect, going by Kirk it seems most of the ethics of starfleet
> are to punch jaws and love and leave innumerable alien ladies! ;D.
> This is why i can have fun with original trek, but really can't take it too
> seriously as an actual piece of sf as I can with later series.
> Beware the grue!
> Dark.

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