I know it, and I still appreciate you for it. What happened today was rather unfortunate, but I do think a lot of the onus is on Tom's initial statements and his reaction to others' responses.
On 7/20/11, Willem Venter <[email protected]> wrote: > Ryan, I remember that time. If you recall I was one of those who > backed you up too. > > In the end, Thomas admitted he was biest toward python and no insults > and name calling was required, just reason and statement of fact. > > On 7/20/11, Ryan Strunk <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hey Willem, >> I've also had to defend my stance on Python with Tom, and while I >> understand the need for diplomacy, I think there's also something to >> be said for mis-information. My Python response became necessary >> because Tom was telling aspiring programmers that Python was not a >> viable language. So much of his opinion was being stated as fact, and >> those interested in learning were taking it as such. It's hard not to >> be offended when, amongst a small community of developers, one of >> those self-same developers feels the need to criticize his peers. It's >> not like this market has much competition, after all. >> Tom stated in his first response to Che that he doesn't understand why >> people always mischaracterize what he says. If several people seem to >> take his words in the wrong light, perhaps he needs to reflect on that >> before getting upset at others for not understanding him. >> >> On 7/20/11, Willem <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi all. >>> Firstly, a lot of this nonsense could have been avoided with a little >>> common sense and a lot less self important attitudes. Yes, Thomas did >>> not always express himself diplomaticly enough, but also some people >>> needled him repeatedly until he snapped. Saying this, an opinion is just >>> that, an opinion and thomas had no right forcing his on people. >>> >>> I think people like Che and to a lesser extend Jeremy were over >>> sensitive about the whole vb issue. Unnecisary atacking of people won't >>> change their mind and helps nothing in the end. Thomas's email was >>> totally uncalled for too and was really childish, but he wasn't the only >>> one. >>> >>> I hope we can all learn to ignore the people or opinions we don't like. >>> If you can't convince someone with reason, nothing will change their >>> mind. There is something like a block sender list, after all. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [email protected]. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to [email protected]. >>> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [email protected]. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [email protected]. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [email protected]. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to [email protected]. > --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [email protected].
