Hi Dennis.
the problem is this isn't about learning new things or preferring older
systems, this is about access.
As per my phd thesis, access = equal, or as close to equal as possible
amounts of effort betwene groups with different biological limitations, and
whatever way you cut the cookie, more and more effort is having to be
expanded with the newer trends in Ui microsoft are implementing.
It's rather like a building being rennivated and putting in escalators while
wripping up the old ramps that paraplegics could use to enter.
It is true that there is little to know prophet in access, however if we
followed that line of thinking to it's ultimate conclusion, very little
would be accessible. Access is an ethical matter and as such falls outside
te of the basic tennits of capitalism, and this is why we can cryticise
microsoft mainstream game companies etc, for following prophet only rather
than access measures (indeed this is where Carl marx was exactly right in
noting that the persuit of prophit is itself an amoral motivation, not an
ethical one).
plus I might add that "saving money" seems a pretty feeble excuse for the
worlds richest coorporation which is paying most of it's manual workers in
china and tyland a pittance.
Beware the grue!
dark.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Towne" <[email protected]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly
As a programmer and developer, I understand completely why Microsoft
(or any developer for that matter) would want to discontinue an older
product. Maintenance is expensive and irritating.
Keep in mind that if they simply try to "continue" XP (and every other
product that some minority group prefers), they will lose money. If
they go broke, there are no more products. How do you think MS pays
for XP maintenance right now? They do it with sales of products that
make money. XP doesn't make money anymore, and they couldn't make it
pay for itself if they tried.
I've had similar complaints come up on Alter Aeon - why don't I just
make ltypes 0 and 1 optional, why don't I just make PPK optional, why
don't I bring up separate servers that allow multiplaying, etc. If I
tried to do even a fraction of these things, AA would never progress
because I'd be spending all my time maintaining crap that doesn't
actually make the game any better.
All developers have to pick and choose their battles. Microsoft is no
different.
I know it may be irritating to have to change your ways or learn new
things, but the fact of the matter is that we can't all be expecting
windows 3.1 (or whatever your favorite version is) to work the same
way for the next 20 years. Change happens. It may not seem like it,
but usually, it actually is for the better.
Dennis Towne
Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Amanda Burt
<[email protected]> wrote:
I agree. I know we're a minority but I still think we should be able to
have a choice regarding this, a lot of us will be left in the cold if the
big companies get their way. Or should I say when they get their way.
Amanda
-----Original Message----- From: dark
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:41 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly
Yep, once again why can't microsoft just continue xp? :D.
Goodness knows what will happen with access tech and windows 8, it's a
shame
after very stable access to xp that things are moving in this direction,
but
once again because vi users are a minority we get the short end of the
stick.
I have at least heard that ribbons are so disliked they're coming out of
windows 8, and I've also heard windows 8 has 16 bit compatibility, so
there
are at least a couple of pluses there albeit small ones.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward"
<[email protected]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly
Hi Dark,
Yes, unfortunately all the buttons etc are a part of the new interface.
I've used Vista and now Windows 7 so have had time to get use to them,
but I
didn't care too much for the new version of Explorer either when I first
encountered it under Vista. However, I have at least managed to customize
Explorer enough that I can ignore all the extra junk that comes along
with
it.
That said, you should have seen the Explorer that came with some of the
betas of Windows 8. Now, that was a nightmare. In addition to the buttons
and other crap the menubar had been replaced with the ribbons that really
was a major turn off. Now, I hear the ribbons are suppose to be removed
before final release and let's hope so. Although, Windows 8 will be a
dramatic departcher from XP and even Windows 7 as far as the U.I. goes.
Part of the reason for that is that Apple's iOS and Google's Android OS
is
very trendy. Everything is moving to touch screens, and Microsoft like
everyone else is attempting to come up with a touch screen U.I. similar
to
Apple's touchscreen U.I. for iOS. Windows 8 has a radically new user
interface with new touch screen technology which is similar to iOS, and
people who love XP will likely hate Win 8 because Microsoft is pandering
to
the touchscreen users with their new U.I.
Same thing is happening in the Linux world too. Ubuntu 12 uses Unity
because Cononical is attempting to market Ubuntu Linux for cell phones,
tablet PCs, netbooks, etc all with the new touch screen interface we are
seeing with iOS, and in order to stay competative Linux distros like
Ubuntu
have to move away from traditional graphical user interfaces and adopt
trendier interfaces like Unity. Which often leaves access technology in
the
position of playing catch up.
Cheers!
On 3/13/2012 6:27 AM, dark wrote:
Hi Tom.
It is true that I have my own folders in xp set as lists, and the
windows
7 machine I tried wasn't mine, I just wasn't sure whether all those
buttons
and random controls were part of the interface or could be disabled.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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