I believe Danielson made that remark. I've always heard playing on an offensive line in a spread attack is MUCH different with all the pulling and different blocking schemes one must do vs playing in a NFL scheme. I would think there were NFL quality O-Linemen we would have missed out on getting, as they would have skipped us for schools running a more traditional offense.
I would think the same would be true for WR's. Who would want to block in a spread offense, when you can learn how to run passing routes and prepare yourself for the NFL in a more traditional offense? I don't know the answers to these, but it seems every one is questioning the talent Meyer left UF with. I was floored after reading Bianchi's latest column. I'm a fan, not a "football" guy. All I can say is: In ALL kinds of weather..... Go Gators! Sent From Shane's iPhone Go Gators! & Skol Vikes! On Oct 10, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Woody <[email protected]> wrote: > Running backs... definitely. > > O-lineman... cant really say its 'hurt us".. because.. and I forget which > announcer said it... the kind that we were recruiting before just dont fit > the power running game style that Muschamp is trying to build... they simply > are not big enough. its gonna take time.. Marotti has got alot of work cut > out for him because he's gotta change bodies to fit what they want to do on > offense now. Trey burton gained what... 30 lbs in the offseason to prepare? > And he still may not be big enough. > > Woody > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Shane Ford <[email protected]> wrote: > How much has the spread offense killed us in recruiting O-Lineman, WR's, and > RB's? > > > Sent From Shane's iPhone > Go Gators! & Skol Vikes! > > On Oct 10, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Woody <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I understand.. and I think its safe to say alot of us feel the same way. I >> dont want to put all the blame on Meyer.. but when he took his little leave >> of absence... that killed us in alot of ways. Regardless of what the >> rankings say... we havent done all that well in recruiting enough bodies to >> fill needs and build depth. I mean... look at Clemson.. SOMEHOW.. they >> always manage to steal running backs out of Florida... how they are able to >> accomplish that is still mindblowing to me. >> >> Woody >> >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Kirkley.net <[email protected]> wrote: >> Don't get me wrong, at the beginning of the year, I looked at these two >> games as likely losses. I'm not upset that we lost, but rather the fact we >> weren't competitive. >> >> And as for recruiting, i know stars mean squat. My point is, we were >> recruiting the same guys as everyone else. Did we just happen to whiff on >> all the really good 4 and 5 star players? And in return we got a bunch of >> over-rated slugs? I don't follow recruiting all that close, but I do know >> that UF commits tend to be dropped in recruiting rankings, so you would >> think we would have more 'diamonds in the rough' than other teams. I also >> know that we have had a larger than normal attrition (will provide analysis >> later), and that has left us short on upperclassmen for leadership and short >> on scholarship players for depth (we have fewer scholarship players than >> USCw who is on probation). >> >> I don't mind the losses, and I understand the injuries, all part of the >> game. It is just very disappointing to me that we are 3 years removed from >> a national title and we have to rebuild. >> >> >> >> Ken K >> MNGator >> >> >> On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Woody <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> After two blowout losses, what is your perception of the program now? >>> >>> >> Exactly about where I thought it would be. I asked a co-worker (and >>> >> Gator) what he thought the score would be on Friday.. and I think he >>> >> said something like 14 pts... and my response to him was "you think >>> >> they'll score a TD?". This is a young team... we have no >>> >> depth/experience. None of this is much of a surprise to me really. >>> >>> My thoughts are a combination, but I put most of the blame on the coaches. >>> UF has had top ten ranked recruiting classes the past five years, and the >>> players we got were also considering the other good programs. >>> >>> >> Your (as do most other college football fans) putting way too much >>> >> weight on the recruiting rankings/stars... even Urban has said they >>> >> havent proven anything yet after his #1 recruiting classes. Fine... >>> >> your supposed to be good.. maybe the best. Prove it. >>> >>> Its going to take time... I prepared myself for this very very early in the >>> season. It makes my heart hurt everytime they lose especially so the way >>> they last these last two games. Chris Leak had SOME playing time and >>> arguably had a better/deeper O-line going in to face LSU than what Brissett >>> had. I didnt see but the last 45 seconds of the game... but you cant >>> blame/point fingers at him. No one expects the #1 and #2 QB to be knocked >>> out of the same game. Thats an abberation. >>> >>> As for the defense... so far.. we are still ranked 4th in Defense in the >>> SEC (they said on the radio today)... >>> >>> It all kinds of weather my friends... we're gonna have to be patient... and >>> stand behind them regardless. >>> >>> Woody >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Kirkley.net <[email protected]> wrote: >>> After two blowout losses, what is your perception of the program now? Is >>> this simply growing pains or is the coaching not getting the job done? Can >>> it really be that we are that far behind LSU and Bama in skill and player >>> potential? >>> >>> My thoughts are a combination, but I put most of the blame on the coaches. >>> UF has had top ten ranked recruiting classes the past five years, and the >>> players we got were also considering the other good programs. Or were the >>> recruiting rankings really a mirage? While the 2010 class was good and >>> many of those players are starting or significantly contributing as >>> sophomores, the 2007-2009 classes look somewhat suspect in hindsight. >>> >>> I understand that the players were recruited for the spread, but really, we >>> wouldn't have been close to these two teams running the spread either. >>> Isn't it the coaches job to modify the system to fit the personnel? Great >>> we want to run the pro set I, but can't, so maybe we need to run a hybrid >>> pro set spread. And don't get me started on strength, we don't even begin >>> to match up. >>> >>> My biggest concerns coming out of these two games regarding coaching are: >>> - bad play calling. Yes I know Weis is a genius, but I think he outsmarts >>> himself sometimes. Last night, reverting to the spread, run Burton twice >>> and then put the true freshman in to throw on 3rd and 13! Was he >>> channeling the dazzler? Overall, I believe he is coaching like he is in >>> the NFL. Coach for field position, play conservatively and and wait for >>> the other team to make mistakes. Works in the no fun league due to parity, >>> but not in college where there are too many mismatches week to week. You >>> have to be aggressive and keep the other team on it's heels. >>> >>> - lack of fundamentals, particularly on defense. Coach Dawg is defensive >>> genius, but we can't seem to get lined up right, have too many penalties >>> and for goodness sake can't tackle. Big hits are fun, but if the guy with >>> the balk doesn't go down, they are useless. >>> >>> - composure. From CD and his rants to the seemingly emotionless play on >>> the field, we can't seem to find a good mix. CD needs to tone down a bit >>> (although two beat downs made him nit so demonstrative yesterday), the >>> players need to amp it up a notch or two. Once again, I think part of this >>> is the NFL influence. Our mantra of nameless faceless opponents and go out >>> there with a professional, business like attitude. The college game is >>> emotion based and thrives on rivalries, manage to that, don't shy away from >>> it! >>> >>> I understand we have a lot of young players, but I also see older players >>> who make plays hut don't get many opportunities like Gillisle. If we don't >>> start playing and coaching better, this will be a very long season. I felt >>> coming in 8-4 was the baseline, and we can still reasonably do hat or >>> better, but the way we are losing hurts. Not being competitive sucks, I >>> can handle a 14 point loss, being down 14 in the first 8 minutes doesn't >>> make for a fun day. >>> >>> Ken K >>> MNGator >>> >>> -- >>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>> 2008 National Football Champions | >>> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >>> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >>> >>> -- >>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>> 2008 National Football Champions | >>> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >>> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >> >> -- >> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >> 2008 National Football Champions | >> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >> >> -- >> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >> 2008 National Football Champions | >> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
