I would say next time to just flush it.
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: > [gecko]...Euthanasia for Distressed Geckos...> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:17:14 > -0800> > Hi Sherron,> > I know a snake-keeper that kills rats with (I think) > a carbon-dioxide > chamber, because she doesn't like to kill them "maually". > I can find > out more, or put you in touch with her if you like.> > Hope this > helps,> Melody> > Sherron wrote:> > > Aloha, Kind Friends> > > > I prefer to > let nature take its course usually, too. But sometimes you > > can see they > are in obvious pain ... and that hurts me too much, too. I > > can't bear to > see them in pain. Especially when it has become apparent > > that it is > hopeless.> > > > This poor girl apparently fell from our high ceiling onto a > tile floor. > > When we found her, she only moved when we tried to gently > move her out > > of the way. We placed her in a container so she would be > safe from > > predators (other geckos, cats, mongoose, birds) and foot > traffic, in the > > hopes she would recover, and gave her fruit and water. It > was obvious it > > hurt her to move, but she seemed okay when still, so we > hoped for the best.> > > > By the afternoon of the next day, however, her > eyes were badly sunken, > > she had trouble breathing, and her skin was > developing black blotchy > > areas. She would stiffen and gasp repeatedly for > air, which obviously > > was causing her more pain. By this time, it had been > about 18-20 hours > > since her fall and she had started to deteriorate > rapidly. If there had > > been any hope ... :(> > > > If we were still on the > mainland, I could have taken her to our vet who > > we did trust and who > would have treated her properly. But here in the > > islands, we don't have > those resources. Our real problem is finding > > someone who would even treat > geckos. Heck, finding adequate medical > > treatment for humans is a big > problem on the outer islands, let alone > > for exotic animals. I have > Myasthenia Gravis (MG) and I can't find a > > neurologist that knows anything > about my disease on this island. My > > husband sees a cardiologist who flies > over once a month from the island > > of Oahu. It took me 1-1/2 years to find > a personal doctor who would > > treat my "complicated" problems. Medical care > for both people and > > animals is sadly lacking.> > > > And it looks like > the small number of vets here primarily just treat > > cats & dogs. Those I > have called don't include reptiles at all. But I > > really am not surprised, > as we had trouble finding a vet who really knew > > how to take care of > "exotics" like our pet rats in southern California, > > too. Finding good > vets who know more than cats & dogs has always been a > > problem -- it's > just that here in Kona there are far fewer to start with.> > > > I am also no > longer convinced that a shot from just any vet is > > automatically better. I > took one of my rats to another vet when our own > > vet was out of town and > she screamed in pain from his injection -- she > > suffered a lot from it and > it took her a long time to die as she > > suffered. Not all vets have empathy > nor even seem to believe that > > animals really can suffer pain. So unless > you know the vet, you are just > > taking your chances. Sometimes you have no > choice, But that experience > > has made me leery of automatically trusting > every vet.> > > > Worse, after doing some checking online, I find that it is > illegal in > > Hawaii to catch & keep any day geckos in Hawaii (except with a > permit > > for scientific research) in order to discourage any trade in them > > > whatsoever. It is okay to keep the native species, but not any animal > > > banned for import/export that are deemed dangerous to the native > > > populations (native insects, in this case). So even if there were good > > > gecko vets, they would be risking their license if they to treat a day > > > gecko since they cannot be legally kept.> > > > So right now we are pretty > much on our own. We either have to stand by > > and watch them die, no matter > how long it takes, or we need something > > else we can come up with to make > their going easier. Maybe my husband > > can "smash" them, as someone else > suggested. I don't know that I could > > unless they were already partially > crushed already ... or like this poor > > little baby we found on our lanai, > being eaten alive by ants, we think > > partially eaten by a day gecko who > bit off more than it could chew and > > coughed her back up.> > > > > > We're > sure she was in terrible pain -- I can't believe that freezing her > > was > worse than the pain she was suffering.> > > > I didn't know what to do for > them, but my husband felt freezing would be > > quicker and kinder than > letting them slowly die in pain. If we were > > wrong, I regret it immensely. > I do know it is not at all kind for > > mammals; I just do not know for > reptiles. Thankfully, we have > > encountered such dreadful conditions only > twice. But knowing day geckos, > > it is possible this horrible situation > will come up again -- and I am > > desperate for a better choice. Can you > help? :(> > > > Mahalo, Sherron> > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > Gecko aka Sherron, Kailua Kona, Hawaii (on the Big Island of Hawaii)> > > Homepage: http://hale-pohaku.com/sherron - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > See > our rats: http://hale-pohaku.com/dennis/ratgallery.html> > > > > _______________________________________________> Global Gecko Association> > http://www.gekkota.com> Classifieds> > http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi> gecko mailing list> > [email protected]> http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko _________________________________________________________________ Instantly invite friends from Facebook and other social networks to join you on Windows Live™ Messenger. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_InviteFriends
