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Sorry about the delay, I tried to spend the holidays with the kids instead of my squared-headed mistress. True, mostely. The dark ages affected the Northern Hemisphere. They drove the invaders into China and prompted the building of the great wall. The northern American Indians went into serious deline, but the Anasai cum Pueblo were doing well. The Ottoman Empire was at its peak. So, without getting into race, since I am a mutt, it was a problem that affected only the upper lattitudes. Still, it provides some interesting insights into how climate affects society. I'd like Choppy to reorganize his thoughts into an essay for my site. He has a nice way with thought and language. I have found some interesting reactions to the theory of global warming. Rightly or wrongly, a large section of society seems to believe that the net effect will be good for the "western society." They see benefits such as longer growing seasons, more rain, much of Canada opened up, and new coastal habitat for marine life. They point to public reactions like better regulations for fishing and eco-friendly power and say, it is all going to be OK. Some interesting recent work in the archeology field indicates that the recent upswing in radical weather is part of a natural trend that has extremely long cycles. They point to signs of incredible floods and mudslides across the upper United States and claim that we are entering the very beginning of such an extreme cycle. Tropical Cyclone Zoe recently wrecked a couple of islands in the South Pacific with winds over 225 MPH. That is almost 1/3 the speed of sound. Considering that a Hurricane loses about 10 MPH pf wind speed for every ten miles of land it crosses, then, if Zoe had hit the Louisiana coast, the eye would have been past Baton Rouge before it was down to Andrew's strength. I sure wouldn't want to be in a grass hut or small boat when that monster sailed through! If we are going to see an increase in severe weather, and we know of the past impacts, what does that mean for us? Should we be looking into satelite-based networking and communication systems? Wires would be expensive to keep replacing. How about distributed storage and grid computing? A hurricane weaker that cyclone Zoe would affect power grids and networks from Orlando to Houston. I think I'll lease my next car... Doug Mat Branyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: well, they were also only dark for the anglo saxon race. Other races around the world were flourishing. So maybe one persons dark age is anothers age of enlightenment. Maybe i think too much for my capacity (like a 486 running winxp) about the tag, evolution supports using scripts as signatures. unfortunately that system isnt online right now, but the script is soemthing like #!/bin/sh echo "mat ||" fortune -s the -s tag is for short fortunes. i have another with the '-o' tag as well, which is for offensive :). those are fun --mat || i wish i did have internet on my computer now :( -----Original Message----- From: Doug Riddle To: [email protected] Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:18:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [brlug-general] New York Time: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet > Mat: > > Just a note about your tag. The dark ages were dark due to a lack of > light. There are several proposed reasons for the long winters and > dark skies, but the evidence is very firm, the dark ages were dark, > cold, and damp in Europe. > > There was scant light for growing food, severe famines, and rampant > diseases. The dark ages were dark because man was not the master of > his environment. The next catastrophe will tell if we have done any > better. Check records on growth rings for trees during the periods > from 11,000 to the late 13,000's. The records of ice accumulation > during the period known as the "dark ages" tell quite a story as > well. These were not a people givin to philosophy, or deep thought. > They were struggling to survive and largly failing. They called it > dark becuase they had heard thet the sun used to shine. > > The rebirth, was just that. Not to pour cold water on a 14th century > philosopher, just because they were all pompus and thick, he just > happened to be wrong as well as thick and pompus. By the by, Michner > didn't coin the phrase, he borrowed it from Chaucer. Chaucer wrote > in Middle English, so Michner thought he would get away with it, and > largely did. Oddly enough, Chaucer was paraprasing a monk from just a > hundred or two hundred years before and screwed it up, so I suppose > Michner can be forgiven. > Warmest Regards, Doug Riddle http://www.dougriddle.com http://fossile-project.sourceforge.net/ http://www.libranet.com -- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the Peoples' Liberty Teeth." - George Washington -- --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now --0-566381737-1041523647=:56985 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <P>Sorry about the delay, I tried to spend the holidays with the kids instead of my squared-headed mistress. <P>True, mostely. The dark ages affected the Northern Hemisphere. They drove the invaders into China and prompted the building of the great wall. The northern American Indians went into serious deline, but the Anasai cum Pueblo were doing well. The Ottoman Empire was at its peak. So, without getting into race, since I am a mutt, it was a problem that affected only the upper lattitudes. <P>Still, it provides some interesting insights into how climate affects society. I'd like Choppy to reorganize his thoughts into an essay for my site. He has a nice way with thought and language. <P>I have found some interesting reactions to the theory of global warming. Rightly or wrongly, a large section of society seems to believe that the net effect will be good for the "western society." They see benefits such as longer growing seasons, more rain, much of Canada opened up, and new coastal habitat for marine life. They point to public reactions like better regulations for fishing and eco-friendly power and say, it is all going to be OK. <P>Some interesting recent work in the archeology field indicates that the recent upswing in radical weather is part of a natural trend that has extremely long cycles. They point to signs of incredible floods and mudslides across the upper United States and claim that we are entering the very beginning of such an extreme cycle. Tropical Cyclone Zoe recently wrecked a couple of islands in the South Pacific with winds over 225 MPH. That is almost 1/3 the speed of sound. Considering that a Hurricane loses about 10 MPH pf wind speed for every ten miles of land it crosses, then, if Zoe had hit the Louisiana coast, the eye would have been past Baton Rouge before it was down to Andrew's strength. I sure wouldn't want to be in a grass hut or small boat when that monster sailed through! <P>If we are going to see an increase in severe weather, and we know of the past impacts, what does that mean for us? Should we be looking into satelite-based networking and communication systems? Wires would be expensive to keep replacing. How about distributed storage and grid computing? A hurricane weaker that cyclone Zoe would affect power grids and networks from Orlando to Houston. <P>I think I'll lease my next car... <P>Doug</P> <P> <B><I>Mat Branyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <P>well, they were also only dark for the anglo saxon race. Other races <BR>around the world were flourishing. So maybe one persons dark age is <BR>anothers age of enlightenment. Maybe i think too much for my capacity <BR>(like a 486 running winxp)<BR><BR>about the tag, evolution supports using scripts as signatures. <BR>unfortunately that system isnt online right now, but the script is <BR>soemthing like<BR><BR>#!/bin/sh<BR>echo "mat ||"<BR>fortune -s<BR><BR>the -s tag is for short fortunes. i have another with the '-o' tag as <BR>well, which is for offensive :). those are fun<BR><BR>--mat || i wish i did have internet on my computer now :(<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Doug Riddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><BR>To: [email protected]<BR>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:18:35 -0800 (PST)<BR>Subject: Re: [brlug-general] New York Time: White House to Propose System <BR>for Wide Monitoring of Internet<BR><BR>> Mat:<BR>> <BR>> Just a note about your tag. The dark ages were dark due to a lack of<BR>> light. There are several proposed reasons for the long winters and<BR>> dark skies, but the evidence is very firm, the dark ages were dark,<BR>> cold, and damp in Europe.<BR>> <BR>> There was scant light for growing food, severe famines, and rampant<BR>> diseases. The dark ages were dark because man was not the master of<BR>> his environment. The next catastrophe will tell if we have done any<BR>> better. Check records on growth rings for trees during the periods<BR>> from 11,000 to the late 13,000's. The records of ice accumulation<BR>> during the period known as the "dark ages" tell quite a story as<BR>> well. These were not a people givin to philosophy, or deep thought. <BR>> They were struggling to survive and largly failing. They called it<BR>> dark becuase they had heard thet the sun used to shine.<BR>> <BR>> The rebirth, was just that. Not to pour cold water on a 14th century<BR>> philosopher, just because they were all pompus and thick, he just<BR>> happened to be wrong as well as thick and pompus. By the by, Michner<BR>> didn't coin the phrase, he borrowed it from Chaucer. Chaucer wrote<BR>> in Middle English, so Michner thought he would get away with it, and<BR>> largely did. Oddly enough, Chaucer was paraprasing a monk from just a<BR>> hundred or two hundred years before and screwed it up, so I suppose<BR>> Michner can be forgiven.<BR>> <BR></P></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Warmest Regards,<BR><BR>Doug Riddle<BR> http://www.dougriddle.com<BR>http://fossile-project.sourceforge.net/<BR> http://www.libranet.com<br> -- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the Peoples' Liberty Teeth." - George Washington --<BR><p><br><hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br> <a href="http://rd.yahoo.com/mail/mailsig/*http://mailplus.yahoo.com";>Yahoo! Mail Plus</a> - Powerful. 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