Please! disagree!  I wanted to open debate!

Still, you dodged the point about the money.  Granted,
if it is my insurance denenro, I really could care
less. At that point.  For obvious reasons.

Others might  care.  Should I allow that a trust fund
be set up for the BRLUG if there isn't one family
member left? 

I do no not want to be a pain, but I do want to plan
for my death.  Lord knows, I've seen enough of it to
know it happens to us all.   

What do the BRLUG by-laws stipulate?

--- John Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Doug,
> 
> I respectfully have to disagree again. I don't agree
> that a totally separate
> Linux group at LSU would somehow "take away" from
> anyone's efforts at BRLUG.
> By that logic, I should not start a Gonzales area
> LUG. Does an effort at LSU
> have to be LUG at all? I still say just start a
> mailing list at LSU for
> Linux related topics and let it rip. If something
> grows out of it, then
> great, let it grow. But starting out big first can
> result in that effort
> collapsing on itself. Is your thinking that you
> don't have enough time to
> put into it and consider that it being part of BRLUG
> would somehow give the
> effort some lift?
> 
> I still say that what is needed is to start a
> mailing list somewhere on the
> lsu.edu domain and invite people who have expressed
> an interest and those
> who may be interested. And then spraypaint Tux
> graffiti all over campus.
> **This is humor. I'm not condoning vandalism.**
> 
> I say let a thousand LUGs blossom, to suit whatever
> purposes makes em
> different. Linux and the free|open source software
> movement is
> non-heirarchical. You are still thinking Cathedral,
> when you should be
> thinking Bazaar.
> 
> Ah, I think I see why you are thinking this way. You
> are a military man.
> Heirarchies and chains of command are imprinted into
> your RNA. At ease,
> soldier, you have paid your dues.
> 
> John Hebert
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Riddle
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: 9/30/03 6:59 PM
> Subject: RE: [brlug-general] LSU LUG?
> 
> Baton Rouge Linux User Group.
> 
> I think that sort of sums up the area.  There are
> not a great number of us.  A thread got started on
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] about a way to promote and
> coordinate Open Source at LSU.
> 
> I think that is a great cause, and at least two
> slackers from BRLUG are also on campus.
> 
> After hearing the comments of the group, I thought a
> LUG would be the perfect solution.  Albeit I begged
> off of much a role.   I now have to research irons
> in
> the fire, and I was not hired on as a researcher. 
> (The AgCenter is open-mided about where the ideas
> come
> from.)
> 
> An lsu.edu mailing list and an lsu.edu site would
> add
> credibility to the uninitiated on-campus, but I
> really
> do not want to be involved with anything that would
> take anything away from the BRLUG.
> 
> I think having an established LUG with ties to
> O'Riley
> is a better idea.  The LSU Chapter of the Greater
> Baton Rouge Linux User Group.  Many on-campus
> members
> will (or could be) permanent, but the students will
> be
> transitory.  I think the continuity would be better
> served by the involvment of the BRLUG.
> 
> That is just a slacker's opinion, and I am very
> often
> really wrong.  As I said, I do not want to take
> anything away from the work you, John, and Dustin
> have
> done.  i admire the both of you more than mere words
> can express for your tireless efforts on all of our
> behalf.  The two of you do not get enough thank
> you's.
>  Y'all have a lot of great help too, and God bless
> them all.
> 
> I am sorry I fell out picture for a while, but these
> two projects, if we can get them to fruition, will
> be
> a great boon to local farmers, and the other to all
> impared people in the south.  I cannot wait until I
> can show you my babies and see if y'all think
> they're
> pretty, but LSU is real picky about Intellectual
> Property.  You have to sign really ugly agreements
> to
> get their help, but once they wade in they don't
> hold
> back.  It is nice to know think my ideas have merit.
> 
> Now all we have to do is prove it.  
> 
> I'll be back, hopefully with some cash to buy some
> computers for the lab.  The ugly agreement does give
> me a share, but I have to give it back to the
> community.  Trust me, the first idea is so slap your
> head stupidly obvious, I cannot belive we are going
> to
> get a patent on it.  It would be like playing poker
> with the blind to keep that money.
> 
> The second idea is to help impaired people.  What
> kind
> of low-life takes money from the handi-capped?  No,
> I'll be giving my share to the BRLUG, The March of
> Dimes, And the Heart and Lung assoc. If there is any
> money.  Hey, how about a BRLUG endowed chair at the
> AgCenter?  No that would be cool.  We could set up a
> chair to encourge the use of Open Source software
> and
> Open Standards in research...
> 
> Pipe dreams for a year or two, but trust me, these
> are
> necessary, obvious as the nose on you face, ideas. 
> I
> am not a genius.  I just tinker, and see stuff.
> 
> What should we do the money?  I hereby promise the
> BRLUG thirty percent of whatever I get from my two
> current projects if all of the funds go to the
> non-profit undertaking a committee elected by our
> email list approves by a unanimous vote.  If and
> when
> the BRLUG gets money, mine or anyone else's what
> should we do with it?  Do we owe any to the Cajun
> Clicker's?
> 
> Granted the projects I am working on are still in
> research, but I have the BRLUG named on an insurace
> policy in case the famliy goes together.  God forbid
> the state get it!
> 
> What would we do with ten grand or ten hundred
> grand?
> 
> Food for thought.  What do the by-laws say?
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> --- John Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey Doug,
> > 
> > Please define what you mean by "mini BRLUG". I
> > perceive that as being an
> > off-shoot of BRLUG, or somehow under the umbrella
> of
> > BRLUG. I don't think
> > this would attract interest at LSU among LSU
> > faculty. I'm sure that BRLUG
> > members who are connected somehow to LSU would
> feel
> > free to be members of
> > both, or even to leave BRLUG and join a separate
> LSU
> > related Linux group.
> > 
> > The goal, IMO, is to promote Linux advocacy, not
> > BRLUG advocacy.
> > 
> > I'm not trying to raise a platoon sargeant's
> dander
> > here; just trying to
> > understand why you want an LSU LUG to be a "mini
> > BRLUG". :)
> > 
> > John Hebert
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Doug Riddle
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: 9/30/03 2:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] LSU LUG?
> > 
> > More later, but I am thinking a mini Brlug.  There
> > is
> > interest in an LSU site to organize Open Source
> > software efforts and software.  There is interest
> in
> 
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Warmest Regards,

Doug Riddle
http://www.dougriddle.com
http://fossile-project.sourceforge.net/
http://www.libranet.com
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Peoples' Liberty Teeth." - George Washington --


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