How could I not agree! Thanks John. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 12:40 AM Subject: RE: [brlug-general] LSU LUG?
> Doug, > > I respectfully have to disagree again. I don't agree that a totally separate > Linux group at LSU would somehow "take away" from anyone's efforts at BRLUG. > By that logic, I should not start a Gonzales area LUG. Does an effort at LSU > have to be LUG at all? I still say just start a mailing list at LSU for > Linux related topics and let it rip. If something grows out of it, then > great, let it grow. But starting out big first can result in that effort > collapsing on itself. Is your thinking that you don't have enough time to > put into it and consider that it being part of BRLUG would somehow give the > effort some lift? > > I still say that what is needed is to start a mailing list somewhere on the > lsu.edu domain and invite people who have expressed an interest and those > who may be interested. And then spraypaint Tux graffiti all over campus. > **This is humor. I'm not condoning vandalism.** > > I say let a thousand LUGs blossom, to suit whatever purposes makes em > different. Linux and the free|open source software movement is > non-heirarchical. You are still thinking Cathedral, when you should be > thinking Bazaar. > > Ah, I think I see why you are thinking this way. You are a military man. > Heirarchies and chains of command are imprinted into your RNA. At ease, > soldier, you have paid your dues. > > John Hebert > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Riddle > To: [email protected] > Sent: 9/30/03 6:59 PM > Subject: RE: [brlug-general] LSU LUG? > > Baton Rouge Linux User Group. > > I think that sort of sums up the area. There are > not a great number of us. A thread got started on > [EMAIL PROTECTED] about a way to promote and > coordinate Open Source at LSU. > > I think that is a great cause, and at least two > slackers from BRLUG are also on campus. > > After hearing the comments of the group, I thought a > LUG would be the perfect solution. Albeit I begged > off of much a role. I now have to research irons in > the fire, and I was not hired on as a researcher. > (The AgCenter is open-mided about where the ideas come > from.) > > An lsu.edu mailing list and an lsu.edu site would add > credibility to the uninitiated on-campus, but I really > do not want to be involved with anything that would > take anything away from the BRLUG. > > I think having an established LUG with ties to O'Riley > is a better idea. The LSU Chapter of the Greater > Baton Rouge Linux User Group. Many on-campus members > will (or could be) permanent, but the students will be > transitory. I think the continuity would be better > served by the involvment of the BRLUG. > > That is just a slacker's opinion, and I am very often > really wrong. As I said, I do not want to take > anything away from the work you, John, and Dustin have > done. i admire the both of you more than mere words > can express for your tireless efforts on all of our > behalf. The two of you do not get enough thank you's. > Y'all have a lot of great help too, and God bless > them all. > > I am sorry I fell out picture for a while, but these > two projects, if we can get them to fruition, will be > a great boon to local farmers, and the other to all > impared people in the south. I cannot wait until I > can show you my babies and see if y'all think they're > pretty, but LSU is real picky about Intellectual > Property. You have to sign really ugly agreements to > get their help, but once they wade in they don't hold > back. It is nice to know think my ideas have merit. > Now all we have to do is prove it. > > I'll be back, hopefully with some cash to buy some > computers for the lab. The ugly agreement does give > me a share, but I have to give it back to the > community. Trust me, the first idea is so slap your > head stupidly obvious, I cannot belive we are going to > get a patent on it. It would be like playing poker > with the blind to keep that money. > > The second idea is to help impaired people. What kind > of low-life takes money from the handi-capped? No, > I'll be giving my share to the BRLUG, The March of > Dimes, And the Heart and Lung assoc. If there is any > money. Hey, how about a BRLUG endowed chair at the > AgCenter? No that would be cool. We could set up a > chair to encourge the use of Open Source software and > Open Standards in research... > > Pipe dreams for a year or two, but trust me, these are > necessary, obvious as the nose on you face, ideas. I > am not a genius. I just tinker, and see stuff. > > What should we do the money? I hereby promise the > BRLUG thirty percent of whatever I get from my two > current projects if all of the funds go to the > non-profit undertaking a committee elected by our > email list approves by a unanimous vote. If and when > the BRLUG gets money, mine or anyone else's what > should we do with it? Do we owe any to the Cajun > Clicker's? > > Granted the projects I am working on are still in > research, but I have the BRLUG named on an insurace > policy in case the famliy goes together. God forbid > the state get it! > > What would we do with ten grand or ten hundred grand? > > Food for thought. What do the by-laws say? > > Doug > > > --- John Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Doug, > > > > Please define what you mean by "mini BRLUG". I > > perceive that as being an > > off-shoot of BRLUG, or somehow under the umbrella of > > BRLUG. I don't think > > this would attract interest at LSU among LSU > > faculty. I'm sure that BRLUG > > members who are connected somehow to LSU would feel > > free to be members of > > both, or even to leave BRLUG and join a separate LSU > > related Linux group. > > > > The goal, IMO, is to promote Linux advocacy, not > > BRLUG advocacy. > > > > I'm not trying to raise a platoon sargeant's dander > > here; just trying to > > understand why you want an LSU LUG to be a "mini > > BRLUG". :) > > > > John Hebert > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Doug Riddle > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: 9/30/03 2:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] LSU LUG? > > > > More later, but I am thinking a mini Brlug. There > > is > > interest in an LSU site to organize Open Source > > software efforts and software. There is interest in > > day time meetings. A mailing list would be great, > > and > > I do not think the BRLUG should pick up the tab or > > the > > labor. However, a campus LUG would be constantly > > shifting. BRLUG would be the hub, a campus LUG > > would > > have to come to papa to get anything done. A campus > > LUG might be able to get something the BRLUG has > > always had problems with though... Money. > > > > More later. This came up through complaints. It > > will > > all come out in the wash. > > > > No hurries, no worries. There is time... > > > > Doug > > > > --- Karthik Poobalasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > I am very much interested and i did ask around the > > > brlug asking if there's > > > a group or start a user group on campus. I asked > > > around on campus too. > > > There are two guys who for for HPC who use linux > > for > > > their day to day > > > work. almost an year back they tried to get my > > > netgear wireless card to > > > work with redhat. well one of them is the one > > > hosting redhat.lsu.edu. > > > > > > I think there are a lot of people who are > > interested > > > or already using Open > > > Source/Linux solutions for official work.we all > > know > > > for a fact that the > > > math dept hosts a debian mirror! . last week a big > > > grant(i > > > don't the figure but i think it should be in 7 > > > digits) was given to LSU > > > for developing a linux cluster. > > > I think its perfect time to get people interested > > in > > > Open Source/Linux. > > > > > > well here's the thing. I am not really sure if it > > > should be a fully > > > fledged lug or a mini-brlug. I am really split > > about > > > this. on one hand a > > > lsulug(or whatever) would be cool and name could > > be > > > associated with LSU. > > > As Doug said "if it doesn't end in lsu.edu, it > > > cannot > > > possibly relate to LSU". > > > On the other hand i see that it would be better to > > > get people involved in > > > brlug 'cause we already an established group. > > > Isaac Traxler kinda suggested that we start a sig > > > with ACM and when it > > > gets momentum we can start our own LUG. > > > > > > What do you guys think. > > > > > > Karthik > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Doug Riddle wrote: > > > > > > > I am way short on time, but I am spend what I > > have > > > at > > > > LSU lately. The has been some interest in an > > Open > > > > Source clearing house/home page/Linux sort of > > site > > > on > > > > the LSU-ITINFO mailing list. I remember some > > > traffic > > > > about an LSU LUG a while back. > > > > > > > > Is anyone actively working an LSU LUG? I know a > > > few > > > > folks that are interested in backing something > > > like > > > > that, and I might know where we could get some > > > server > > > > space for a site. > > > > > > > > I am thinking of a campus-centered mini-BRLUG. > > A > > > > place where the LSU-centric > > > > software/hardware/education-centered issues can > > be > > > > housed. > > > > > > > > It seems that if it doesn't end in lsu.edu, it > > > cannot > > > > possibly relate to LSU. > > > > > > > > I will be honest, I am swamped, and can do > > little > > > more > > > > than cheer, but I would love to try to put the > > > right > > > > people in touch with one another if there is any > > > > interest. > > > > > > > > BTW. Anyone know where I can get some pheromone > > > > detectors cheap? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > Warmest Regards, > > > > > > > > Doug Riddle > > > > http://www.dougriddle.com > > > > http://fossile-project.sourceforge.net/ > > > > http://www.libranet.com > > > > -- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution > > > in importance; they are the Peoples' Liberty > > Teeth." > > > - George Washington -- > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > The New Yahoo! 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