On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Richard S. Hall <he...@ungoverned.org> wrote: > On 6/6/11 10:41, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: >> >> Hi Richard, * >> >> 2011/6/6 Richard S. Hall<he...@ungoverned.org> >>> >>> On 6/6/11 2:48, Phil Steitz wrote: >>>> >>>> On 6/5/11 11:26 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 6/6/2011 1:06 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Phil Steitz<phil.ste...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >> [...] >> >>> Disclaimer: I work for Oracle, but certainly don't speak for them and I >>> knew nothing about this other than what i've read on these mailing lists... >>> >>> However, it seems like we have lost sight of the fact that TDF split the >>> community from OOo. Sure, Oracle is the perceived villain and TDF the >>> perceived good guy, but it doesn't change the fact that OOo created the >>> community in the first place. >>> >> Fact: Your employer provoked the split, by a absolute >> "non-communication" on the existing mailinglist. >> Now, to say that TDF has split the Communtiy is dishonest! > > Forking splits communities. Whether you feel you had a justified reason for > doing so does not change this fact. I am not weighing in on whether it is > right or wrong in this case, since I think that is immaterial to where we > are now. >
That's an example of denial. I do not see a conductive environment here if such attitudes are tolerated. > I am only going by the "facts" as presented on the various Apache mailing > lists. If it is true that TDF was engaged by Oracle/IBM before the Apache > proposal, but failed to come to terms, then I cannot see how one can claim > that the Apache proposal was merely an attempt to split the community. > You should read more about free and open-source software, from diverse sources. Get a lwn.net subscription. Similar example, there was XFree86 long time ago that behaved just like the Oracle developers. Then, it was forked into X.Org and everyone moved to X.Org. XFree86 is a distant memory. Simos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
