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I have one question:

Back to [1] I remember that Sebb said, I quote:

> Not exactly. lists.a.o is hosted by a 3rd party.
> [...]
> Lists.a.o is not under our control.

[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lt7gft5fz200v7z0w2mt9qn1tvhryyxr

In this vote thread, it writes:

> It is actively deployed as lists.apache.org, serving the
> entire ASF.

Which one is true now?

I'm always motivated to improve lists.a.o in multiple directions but never
find a proper way to set up a local dev env and test, and understand how my
patch would affect the production deployment.

Best,
tison.


Dave Fisher <[email protected]> 于2026年7月11日周六 23:17写道:

> +1 (binding) (wave)
>
> > On Jul 11, 2026, at 8:14 AM, Rich Bowen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Incubator,
> >
> > The Apache Pony Mail community has voted to graduate to a Top-Level
> > Project. I am now calling a vote of the Incubator PMC to recommend
> > graduation to the Board of Directors.
> >
> > Background
> > ----------
> > Apache Pony Mail entered incubation in May 2016. The project provides
> > a mail-archiving, archive viewing, and mailing list interaction
> > service. It is actively deployed as lists.apache.org, serving the
> > entire ASF.
> >
> > The community has operated self-sufficiently for years, with all
> > decisions made on the public dev@ list. The community vote passed
> > with 7 +1 votes and 1 +0, with no vetoes:
> >
> >  +1: Rich Bowen, Jim Jagielski, Sean Palmer, Dave Fisher,
> >      Christian Grobmeier, Daniel Gruno, John D. Ament
> >  +0: Sebb (wishes to remain committer but not join PMC)
> >  -1: (none)
> >
> > Vote thread:
> >  https://lists.apache.org/thread/7xbgp4x0lhdxjxj3xoy5p7md2pn1krgb
> >  (Subject: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Pony Mail to a Top-Level Project)
> >
> > Podling status page:
> >  https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/ponymail.html
> >
> > Community vote thread ([email protected]):
> >  Subject: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Pony Mail to a Top-Level Project
> >
> > Proposed Resolution
> > -------------------
> >
> >  Establish the Apache Pony Mail Project
> >
> >  WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
> >  of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> >  establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation
> >  and maintenance of open-source software related to mail archiving,
> >  archive viewing, and mailing list interaction services, for
> >  distribution at no charge to the public.
> >
> >  NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >  (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Pony Mail Project", be and hereby
> >  is established pursuant to the Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it
> >  further
> >
> >  RESOLVED, that the Apache Pony Mail Project be and hereby is
> >  responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to
> >  mail archiving, archive browsing, and mailing list interaction
> >  services; and be it further
> >
> >  RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Pony Mail" be
> >  and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
> >  the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache
> >  Pony Mail Project, and to have primary responsibility for management
> >  of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache
> >  Pony Mail Project; and be it further
> >
> >  RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby
> >  are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Pony
> >  Mail Project:
> >
> >    * Daniel Gruno        ([email protected])
> >    * Dave Fisher          ([email protected])
> >    * Jim Jagielski        ([email protected])
> >    * Rich Bowen           ([email protected])
> >    * Sean Palmer          ([email protected])
> >    * Ulises               ([email protected])
> >
> >  NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Rich Bowen be
> >  appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Pony Mail, to
> >  serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board
> >  of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
> >  resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a
> >  successor is appointed; and be it further
> >
> >  RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Pony Mail Project be and hereby is
> >  tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator
> >  Pony Mail podling; and be it further
> >
> >  RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> >  Pony Mail podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
> >  hereafter discharged.
> >
> > Vote
> > ----
> > Please vote on the resolution above:
> >
> >  [ ] +1  Recommend graduation of Apache Pony Mail to TLP
> >  [ ] +0  No opinion
> >  [ ] -1  Do not recommend graduation (please state reason)
> >
> > This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours. Only IPMC member
> > votes are binding.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rich
> >
> >
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