> On Jul 11, 2026, at 8:20 AM, tison <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> -0
>
> I have one question:
>
> Back to [1] I remember that Sebb said, I quote:
>
>> Not exactly. lists.a.o is hosted by a 3rd party.
>> [...]
>> Lists.a.o is not under our control.
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/lt7gft5fz200v7z0w2mt9qn1tvhryyxr
I was not completely correct here:
https://lists.apache.org/thread/15b53dxhzdmwcdtz9khfvjho5479b88r
>
> In this vote thread, it writes:
>
>> It is actively deployed as lists.apache.org, serving the
>> entire ASF.
>
> Which one is true now?
The answer as I’ve come to know from Sean and Daniel is that lists.apache.org
is based on a SHA of Foal with (1) some OAuth related changes and (2) Elastic
Search for the database.
These are areas which could likely be brought into alignment with the PMC
version.
>
> I'm always motivated to improve lists.a.o in multiple directions but never
> find a proper way to set up a local dev env and test, and understand how my
> patch would affect the production deployment.
Rich has lately been adding documentation, and I’m pretty confident that over
time you will be able to make meaningful contributions.
Best,
Dave
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> Dave Fisher <[email protected]> 于2026年7月11日周六 23:17写道：
>
>> +1 (binding) (wave)
>>
>>> On Jul 11, 2026, at 8:14 AM, Rich Bowen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Incubator,
>>>
>>> The Apache Pony Mail community has voted to graduate to a Top-Level
>>> Project. I am now calling a vote of the Incubator PMC to recommend
>>> graduation to the Board of Directors.
>>>
>>> Background
>>> ----------
>>> Apache Pony Mail entered incubation in May 2016. The project provides
>>> a mail-archiving, archive viewing, and mailing list interaction
>>> service. It is actively deployed as lists.apache.org, serving the
>>> entire ASF.
>>>
>>> The community has operated self-sufficiently for years, with all
>>> decisions made on the public dev@ list. The community vote passed
>>> with 7 +1 votes and 1 +0, with no vetoes:
>>>
>>> +1: Rich Bowen, Jim Jagielski, Sean Palmer, Dave Fisher,
>>> Christian Grobmeier, Daniel Gruno, John D. Ament
>>> +0: Sebb (wishes to remain committer but not join PMC)
>>> -1: (none)
>>>
>>> Vote thread:
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/7xbgp4x0lhdxjxj3xoy5p7md2pn1krgb
>>> (Subject: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Pony Mail to a Top-Level Project)
>>>
>>> Podling status page:
>>> https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/ponymail.html
>>>
>>> Community vote thread ([email protected]):
>>> Subject: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Pony Mail to a Top-Level Project
>>>
>>> Proposed Resolution
>>> -------------------
>>>
>>> Establish the Apache Pony Mail Project
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
>>> of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>>> establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation
>>> and maintenance of open-source software related to mail archiving,
>>> archive viewing, and mailing list interaction services, for
>>> distribution at no charge to the public.
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Pony Mail Project", be and hereby
>>> is established pursuant to the Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it
>>> further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Pony Mail Project be and hereby is
>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to
>>> mail archiving, archive browsing, and mailing list interaction
>>> services; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Pony Mail" be
>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
>>> the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache
>>> Pony Mail Project, and to have primary responsibility for management
>>> of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache
>>> Pony Mail Project; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby
>>> are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Pony
>>> Mail Project:
>>>
>>> * Daniel Gruno ([email protected])
>>> * Dave Fisher ([email protected])
>>> * Jim Jagielski ([email protected])
>>> * Rich Bowen ([email protected])
>>> * Sean Palmer ([email protected])
>>> * Ulises ([email protected])
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Rich Bowen be
>>> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Pony Mail, to
>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board
>>> of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
>>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a
>>> successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Pony Mail Project be and hereby is
>>> tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator
>>> Pony Mail podling; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>>> Pony Mail podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
>>> hereafter discharged.
>>>
>>> Vote
>>> ----
>>> Please vote on the resolution above:
>>>
>>> [ ] +1 Recommend graduation of Apache Pony Mail to TLP
>>> [ ] +0 No opinion
>>> [ ] -1 Do not recommend graduation (please state reason)
>>>
>>> This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours. Only IPMC member
>>> votes are binding.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rich
>>>
>>>
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