> On Jul 11, 2026, at 12:31 PM, tison <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Thanks for your information!
>
>> The answer as I’ve come to know from Sean and Daniel is that
> lists.apache.org is based on a SHA of Foal with (1) some OAuth related
> changes and (2) Elastic Search for the database.
>>
>> These are areas which could likely be brought into alignment with the PMC
> version.
>
> May I ask what "a SHA of Foal" is?
>
> I'm still uncertain on:
>
> 1. Whether lists.a.o is run by a 3rdparty entity, or it's managed by the
> INFRA
> 2. If it's managed by the INFRA, and it sounds like it uses a different
> version from the one available on apache/incubator-pony-mail, where does
> the source come from?
>
> At least this indicates the background section in the possible
> resolution should
> be adjusted.
You’re right. The background section shouldn’t mention lists.apache.org
<http://lists.apache.org/> at all. The (proposed) PonyMail PMC does not run
lists.apache.org <http://lists.apache.org/>, nor does it care about
lists.apache.org <http://lists.apache.org/> - that was merely mentioned as an
example of a deployment. The PMC has no interest in who runs lists.apache.org
<http://lists.apache.org/> for the ASF. It is only concerned with the creation
of the software. (some unspecified version of which might run at
lists.apache.org <http://lists.apache.org/>, but we have no say in that, nor
special insight into it.)
Let’s pretend that the last sentence of the first paragraph of the Background
section is struck.
Discussion of lists.apache.org <http://lists.apache.org/>, who runs it, what
Infra’s role in it is, or what version of PonyMail is running there, are very
much off-topic in this specific discussion.
—Rich
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