Paul Hammant wrote: > > What rules do you want changed? > > 1) Apache considering that GUI apps are legitimate targets for ASF > attentions. > 2) If jakarta is not the place, then a foundary for GUI apps/comps/tools
These rules don't seem to be present in my copy, can you point me to where I can find them? ;-) > Perhaps I am foolish in that I think this is a forgone conclusion? (i.e. > will be voted down by jakarta-general for (1) and PMC for (2) ) Nothing is a foregone conclusion. Quoting from "www.apache.org": The Apache Software Foundation provides support for the Apache community of open-source software projects. The Apache projects are characterized by a collaborative, consensus based development process, an open and pragmatic software license, and a desire to create high quality software that leads the way in its field. We consider ourselves not simply a group of projects sharing a server, but rather a community of developers and users. I see absolutely nothing there that would preclude GUI apps. >>Warning: that's a trick question. If you want to take initiative and move >>jesktop to sourceforge, you will ultimately be successful. If you want to >>take initiative and build a community for jesktop here within Apache, you >>will ultimately be successful. If you want to take initiative and work to >>get a rule changed you will ultimately be successful. >> >>The only think you will find that you don't have control over is the number >>of hours in a day. >> >Three assertions - a, b & c. (a) true, (b) subject to project-status >and 1 above, (c) subject to 2 above. Apache and Jakarta get proposals all the time that are of the form "if only these codebases were part of the Jakarta or Apache, then certainly they would attract a community". Such proposals generally get politely turned away. > You really think there is a real possibility to stay here and flourish? Actually, no. At least not given the information you have provided before. Specifically, the comment about being "sidetracked with Enterprise Object Broker and AltRMI (and would be with AvalonDB if I had time)." But this has nothing to do with a, b, *OR* c above. I can't resist closing this with the following: In "The Wizard of Oz", Dorothy is lost in Oz and longs for home. She visits the Wizard, who gives her a task that she must perform (killing the Wicked Witch) before he will help her. When she and her friends accomplish this task, Dorothy comes back to the Wizard, only to discover that he's a charlatan with no more powers than she. And, yet, he knows much! The Wizard tells Dorothy that she has had the power to go home all along--inside herself. All she has to do is click her ruby slippers together saying, "There's no place like home." Should the Wizard have told Dorothy when she first came to him that she alone had the power to bring herself home? Would she have believed him? Aren't we all looking for our Wizard, the Great Oz, Someone, Something, that will have the answers and help us find home? We do not easily accept that home can be found inside our own skin, or in the very house we inhabit, or in the very lives we live. The path toward home begins where we are, and only we can direct ourselves to it. And the only way to comprehend that is to begin the journey outward, and inward, on our own path toward home. ;-) - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
