I think ojb can do things like map a set of related objects to xml as
well.  Its not completely database centered.  (I know very little about
ojb, so feel free to dispute that.  Just thought I would bring it up in
case those that know better, are tuned out.)

john mcnally

On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 15:33, Peter Donald wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> OJB deserves to be a peer to other projects alongside ant, avalon, struts etc
> 
> A somewhat better idea IMO would be to use OJB + Torque as a trampoline for a 
> new top-level project "db.apache.org" (or insert something more snappy if you 
> want). So much like xml.apache.org deals with XML, db.apache.org will deal 
> with databases (maybe even collaborate with xml.apache.org/xindice in 
> future).
> 
> While this new db project is gestating we can cross link it extensively from 
> the jakarta website. After they get off the feet we talk to it the same way 
> we talk to xml.apache.org ?
> 
> On Fri, 3 May 2002 07:33, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> > I hate to interrupt all the good fun over standards, bike sheds, and
> > general good community feelings,  but I would like to solicit community
> > opinion on something unrelated to DVSL or Jon Stevens (both of which I
> > like, btw...)
> >
> > Recently, it was proposed that ObjectBridge be brought to Jakarta as a
> > subproject.
> >
> > Costin suggested, and I supported, that a subproject of wider scope be
> > created to allow the collection of similar technologies into one larger
> > subcommunity (that isn't an exact quote, but I think he'll agree in general
> > with that.)
> >
> > The idea would be to bring in ObjectBridge, but create a Commons-like
> > environment in which other projects can be brought.   Call it DB-Commons as
> > a working name.
> >
> > There are some good reasons, including community alignment, inter-project
> > synergy (there, I used the word in an Apache-related post), and ease of
> > discovery for new users and developers.
> >
> > Off the top of my head, in Jakarta we have lots of db related tools already
> > (Torque, commons-dbcp, and I am sure others...), and having a db-focused
> > subproject in which they can be brought to with a lower barrier than
> > 'fullsubproject' might be very benficial.
> >
> > We already have the successful Commons model to use as a starting point.
> >
> > Anyone have any comments?
> 
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> 
> Peter Donald
> 
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