Hi, Currently Apache is undergoing discussion about a reorganization. One of the things that we are discussing is incubation of new projects coming to Apache and how to bring new projects into our fold.
I suspect people are still deciding what to do and it may be the case that you could be one of the first projects to go through the incubation project. And then again it may not ;) Anyways people could take a few days ot answer you so don't be discouraged if no one replies imediately ;) On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 00:29, Ship, Howard wrote: > Background > > Tapestry, currently housed at the SourceForge (http://tapestry.sf.net), is > component-based web application framework. Tapestry falls generally into > the pull-MVC model of development. > > Tapestry is designed specifically around the creation of completely > re-usable components. Components can easily be packaged into libraries and > distributed as Jar files, even when they contain assets such as image files > and stylesheets. > > Tapestry is organized around an abstraction that isolates > application-specific logic from the details of the servlet API, such as > HttpSession, request, response, URLs and query parameters. > > Tapestry is highly pluggable, allowing any and all behavior to be > customized by subclassing appropriate base classes. > > Tapestry is specifically not a JSP taglib, though future enhancements > (scheduled for the next release) will allow it to partially act as one. > Tapestry uses its own method for instrumenting HTML that is extremely > non-obtrusive (it still previews properly in a WYSIWYG editor). Tapestry > has well specified, separate roles for HTML producers and Java developers, > and allows them to work together without interfering with each other. > > The goal of Tapestry is to shift much of the burden of developing web > applications onto the framework, and free the developer to work cleanly and > effectively without concern for the many small details of web application > development. The primary function of Tapestry is the automatic creation of > URLs by the framework, facilitating a fine-grained dispatch model. The > bird's-eye view is that, in Tapestry, actions (such as clicking a link, or > submitting a form) are associated with a particular component and, through > a simple delegation system, a particular bit of user code. There is no > global registry of actions, as in Struts, and it's easy to create reusable > components that define their own behaviors (in terms of links or forms), > independent of the containing page. > > Tapestry applications can be extremely sophisticated with surprising little > code. > > Tapestry includes a significant amount of documentation describing its > strengths and features in great detail, available at > http://tapestry.sf.net. Live demos, a great collection of user quotes, > extensive documentation (HTML and PDF) and a recent code coverage report > are all online. > > Tapestry has been an open-source project on SourceForge since June 2000. > Milestone releases (such as 2.1 in July, or the just-released 2.2) result > in 6K - 7K downloads (increasing by over 1K downloads with each successive > release). Tapestry has averaged over 3000 downloads a month during 2002, > with peaks above 8K/month. > > Tapestry would benefit from Jakarta in terms of greater exposure and > acceptance, but also in terms of better infrastructure, such as Bugzilla > and Maven. > > Tapestry is currently in the Java package net.sf.tapestry; this could > easily be changed to org.apache.tapestry. > > Tapestry is currently licensed under the LGPL, but relicensing under the > Apache license is completely acceptible. The main criteria used when > selecting a license three years ago was that Tapestry be open source and > reusable even in proprietary software, and both licenses ensure that. > > In order to spur discussions, I've worked through the list of criteria and > warning signs (as per http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html). > Pardon the use of third person in reference to myself (it seemed > appropriate for prose that will likely be cut and pasted frequently). > > Criteria > > Meritocracy: Tapestry is currently a benign dictatorship, but it has been > Howard Lewis Ship's intention, even prior to considering a move to Jakarta, > to organize around more democratic principals. > > Community: Tapestry has a modest, but very active community, centered > around a mailing list (approx. 170 members) and the Tapestry Wiki > (http://tapestry.sf.net/wiki). The Tapestry mailing list has an > exceptionally good signal-to-noise ratio; discussions typically revolve > around planning new extensions to the framework, creating new components > and documentation, and diagnosing developer issues. > > Core Developers. The principal developer for the life of the project is > Howard Lewis Ship, he will continue his involvement with Tapestry > indefinitely. Richard Lewis-Shell and Mind Bridge are frequent > contributors of components and bug fixes. Neil Clayton and Malcolm Edgar > provide some code and significant amounts of documentation. Geoff Longman > has created an excellent plugin for the Eclipse IDE (as a separate > project). Several other developers have contributed bugs fixes, components > or documentation in the past. > > Alignment: Tapestry makes use of the ORO, commons-lang and commons-logging > packages internally. > > Scope: Tapestry is entirely a server-side framework, well aligned with the > overall goals of the Jakarta project. > > Warning Signs > > Orphaned products. Tapestry is far from orphaned, it was originally > conceived and executed specifically as an open-source project. > > Inexperience: Howard Lewis Ship has been coding, documenting, mentoring > and managing this open source project for nearly three years. > > Homogeneous Developers: All of the committers listed above came to the > project entirely through appreciation of its qualities (none are known to > Howard Lewis Ship except through Tapestry); representatives from Canada, > England, Australia and New Zealand are included; other contributors > represent South America and Asia (no records have been kept on > contributor's country of origin). This is just the opposite of the "smoke > filled room". > > Reliance on Salaried Developers. Tapestry is largely developed during free > time. Many contributions are developed by consultants to address specific > needs of their clients, then modularized and provided back to the community > (for example, Geoff is developing a workflow management subsystem for > Tapestry that may be released into the framework proper when completed). > Increasingly, developers are finishing projects with Tapestry and > contributing components created for those projects back into the framework. > > No ties to other Apache Products: As stated above, Tapestry makes use of > the ORO and commons packages and has numerous places where greater > integration with Jakarta could occur. It is servlet container agnostic, > working well with Tomcat, Jetty, Resin and others. > > Fascination with Apache Brand: Tapestry has been, and always will be an > open-source project. > > Overlap with Turbine > > Turbine has a similar model to Tapestry, but uses more levels of > abstraction (Layout, Module and Navigation where Tapestry simply has > Component). Turbine provides more choices for rendering responses, whereas > Tapestry supports only its own HTML template format. > > The focus of the two projects is somewhat divergent. Turbine is a > service-oriented where Tapestry is component-oriented. Turbine provides a > larger toolkit (in the form of services) for aspects of the application not > related directly to the presentation layer. Tapestry provides more > flexibility and power in the presentation layer but doesn't provide any > other services (such as scheduling, database access, security, etc.). > > Many Tapestry developers are using Tapestry for the presentation layer, but > leveraging the many Turbine services (especially Torque). > > Summary > > Tapestry is a mature, powerful framework whose focus aligns well with the > overall scope of the Jakarta project. Both Tapestry and Jakarta would be > well served by moving Tapestry under the Jakarta umbrella. -- Cheers, Peter Donald ------------------------------------------------------ Mark Twain: "In the real world, the right thing never happens in the right place at the right time. It is the task of journalists and historians to rectify this error." ------------------------------------------------------ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general-help@;jakarta.apache.org>
