On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 12:06, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: > I think you'll find good news when you read the mailing list. A year ago, I > wouldn't have tried to move Tapestry to Jakarta, because the community > wasn't strong enough, but now it seems like participation is there, with > more people contributing ideas and code. It's also gratifying when users > ask questions on the list and two or three other Tapestry developers answer > the question before I even see it. >
yes! :-) > "Benevolent dictatorship". Probably should have expanded on this. Without > a formal comittee or voting system, I've reserved the right to ultimately > decide what goes into the framework and what doesn't. Part of this is > scheduling, deferring suggestings and minor fixes into later releases. > Also, the pace of releases has been determined by me (i.e., when to freeze > code, when to make a final release). I'd rather have a voting system for > that and buy in from others because its a lot of responsibility to determine > when the code is stable enough (for instance, there is a rather obvious bug > in the 2.2 release that should have been flushed out during the beta). > I guess my knee-jerk is "why don't you just do it" first then become a Jakarta project... For POI we started doing this just before we moved over... Even though in a tight-knit group we all thought it was a big joke (I used to kid that Marc and I were the same person, I was just impersonating him so that we had enough active committers ;-) )... It sounds like you have a reasonable idea of whats going on.. > Much of the evolution of Tapestry starts with a core idea (often, but not > always, from me), is discussed on the list and in the Wiki, and eventually > turned into code (and tests, and documentation). > Wiki's rock! :-) They are only now beginning to take root here. I'll be there shortly to take a look. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 11:01 AM > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta > > > > Just my 2c.. If they have a strong community and meet the > > requirements... Cool. > > > > I think I'll go read their mail archives at let you know how much of it > > I think is being developed by one guy. (I mean if all of those people > > submitted a trivial patch suddenly the day before this proposal was put > > in and that kind of thing...) > > > > It states that its currently run as a benevolent dictatorship but will > > change when it moves over.. I think that is the incorrect order of > > operations... > > > > Just my opinion.. I'm sorry for the inevitable people whom it has > > offended. > > > > -Andy > > > > On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 09:33, Sam Ruby wrote: > > > John McNally wrote: > > > > -1. > > > > Jakarta already has two webapp frameworks and I do not see any reason > to > > > > add another. > > > > > > It is a non-goal of Jakarta to have only one webapp framework, or to > > > limit itself to two. > > > > > > - Sam Ruby > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:general-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:general-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > > > -- > > http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business > > http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in > > Java > > http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project > > structure > > a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! > > The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to > > vote. > > -Ambassador Kosh > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general-help@;jakarta.apache.org>
