> -----Original Message----- > From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@;attbi.com] > Sent: 20 October 2002 14:36 > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta > > I don't have a way to qualify this, but I'm very concerned about growing > the > community, and therefore I'm very careful not to be arbitrary. Everything > is a discussion, and I prefer that person X be happy with the ultimate > decision, preferably agreeing with it. > > I've tried to before to spur more organization, but that didn't really get > started. The problem is, developers are too happy, I think. The > framework > does mostly what they need, bugs fixes and improvements happen, so there > hasn't been a need to get involved. A move to Jakarta will *force* a few > people (and I know who they are) to step forward, since other wise, by the > rules, nothing will actually happen.
I'm interested to know more about this last part... I have moved Cactus from SF to Jakarta a bit more than a year ago and I've found that I haven't been able to grow much the number of committers. I believe there are 2 possible reasons: 1/ Cactus (server-side unit testing - J2EE ATM) is too much of a niche and people think there's not much more to do in that domain (quite wrongly I can assure you ... :-)) 2/ Cactus is a victim of its success. From the beginning I have tried to work hard to provide everything: documentation, quick answers to ML, quick fixes, be customer driven, etc. Thus, as you say, people do not participate because it works and the projects moves forward by itself (so it seems ;-)). So I'm not sure why you say that a move to jakarta would change point 2/ (which seems to be Tapestry's case). I'm interested in knowing if you have a magic recipe that I could apply ... :-) Thanks -Vincent PS: BTW, how do you unit test tapestry components? ;-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 9:04 PM > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta > > > On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 02:06, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: > > "Benevolent dictatorship". Probably should have expanded on this. > Without > > a formal comittee or voting system, I've reserved the right to > ultimately > > decide what goes into the framework and what doesn't. > > Start changing now. I don't know how long it will be before you come to > Apache > but there is no harm and considerable benefit in moving to this model > IMHO. > It would also enhance your chances of making it into Apache. > > -- > Cheers, > > Peter Donald > -------------------------------------------------- > Logic: The art of being wrong with confidence... > -------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general-help@;jakarta.apache.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general-help@;jakarta.apache.org>
