On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 11:57, Sam Ruby wrote:

> This issue has come up before.  This time, let's flatten it.
> 
> In two weeks, there is a board meeting.  At that time, I would like to
> be able to report that the contents of the Maven repository conforms to
> the policies of the Apache Software Foundation.
> 
> Code under the ASF License is clearly OK.  As is the IBM Public License
> (the pre-Jakarta BSF, for example) and the MPL (Rhino).  The following
> public domain components are also approved: Antlr and Doug Lea's
> concurrency package.
> 
> Licenses clearly not conforming to the ASF's policies for distribution:
> LGPL, GPL, Sun's Binary Code License.

The Sun Binary Code License issue I am looking into personally and will
either 1) add a click through license handler 2) Add the
non-distributable JARs feature back in or 3) remove them. These are a
problem.

As for the LGPL and GPL jars what is the problem exactly. Ibiblio is not
ASF hardware what jurisdiction does the ASF have?. What juridiction do
you have at all? I put the repository there to avoid these problems. Why
are you trying to make it so difficult for people to build projects?
What are users supposed to do who need GPL and LGPL JARs. The Maven
repository is not for ASF code only, it's for all Java projects.

The Maven repository is not Maven. Ted Leung had the idea of using a
PORTs type system where the repository had pointers to the actual
artifacts but what you are saying is that we wouldn't even be allowed to
provide pointers to LGPL and GPL software because it's associated with
Maven which is a project at the ASF. That's just ridiculous? How is the
ASF at all liable for anything not on ASF hardware?

On what legal grounds could anyone make the ASF liable? I don't see how
this is possible? And given that is not the ASF's problem which is again
why I put the repository on ibiblio because I didn't want it to be a
problem for the ASF.

I assume that Roy is the most versed in the legal issues so I've cc'd
him here as I would like to know if there are any legal grounds under
which the ASF would be liable for anything done at ibiblio?

> Please direct any questions or comments (including new licenses to be
> considered) to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Some we can resolve for
> ourselves (e.g., the specific public domain packages above).  Others
> I'll batch up and forward to the board and/or licensing folk.
> 
> By the board meeting after that (3rd week in March), I'd like to have
> the infrastructure issues resolved (where should this data should be
> hosted, mirrored, etc).
> 
> - Sam Ruby
> 
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Jason van Zyl
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In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
  
  -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society


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