On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 13:16, Sam Ruby wrote:
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
> > 
> > The Sun Binary Code License issue I am looking into personally and will
> > either 1) add a click through license handler 2) Add the
> > non-distributable JARs feature back in or 3) remove them. These are a
> > problem.
> 
> I don't see anything in the license that permits others to redistribute 
> this with a click through license.

Netbeans does it so I don't see why we can't.

> > As for the LGPL and GPL jars what is the problem exactly. Ibiblio is not
> > ASF hardware what jurisdiction does the ASF have?. What juridiction do
> > you have at all? I put the repository there to avoid these problems. Why
> > are you trying to make it so difficult for people to build projects?
> > What are users supposed to do who need GPL and LGPL JARs. The Maven
> > repository is not for ASF code only, it's for all Java projects.
> 
> Ibiblio can do whatever it wants.  I don't want the ASF to be complicit 
> with license violations.  Sever the connection to ibiblio or correct the 
> problem.

How is the ASF complicit. IT'S NOT ON ASF HARDWARE!

> > I've removed the JAF, JavaMail and EJB jars from the repository.
> > 
> > Sam, just let know if there are others JARs I can remove to make it more
> > difficult for people to build their projects. 
> 
> I realize that you are not happy with the terms of the Sun license. 
> Please do not direct that at me.

Yes, I'm directing it at you because you're the only person who seems to
making this as issue. Obviously Sun is implicitly ignoring the
redistribution of these JARs because it's happening all over the place.
You bringing this to a head is not going to allow Sun to whistle in the
dark and let it go. They probably don't care and they probably don't
want to spend any money changing the license because things just
generally work. You making a big stink about it and then doing zilch
insofar as contacting anyone at Sun to try and help with all your
purported clout absolutely sucks.

> - Sam Ruby
> 
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  -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society


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