Thank you for the comment, Robert.
TO tell the truth, my original motivation to arise this issue was concering to the upcoming newsletter. I published the final "Jakarta Newsletter" in early this month and I found I made some mistakes. Also, there was something which I got aware: <<1>> I've forgot to append the URL of Apache Ant. There might be someone who came to jakarta-general, not knowing that Ant had been separated and have own mailng lists. <<2>> I wrote: 'If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list [4], ................................................ [4] - http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html' However, at the same time I felt guilty about this .. thinking "Oh, how user unfriendly I am!" <<3>> I have felt the mail trailer (can be seen at the bottom of each mails) can be improved in the future. I was getting too nervous on the next Newsletter (ASF-wide) and thought "before it is too late"... -- Anyway, I will perform the improvements gradually... There seem many rooms for improvements even in the current site/mail2.html. Thank you all who participated in this issue for the comments! Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:17:40 +0100 (Subject: Re: mail2.html -> mail.html) robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > jakarta came round to having two pages for mail subscriptions after > having years of regular problems with people joining the lists who > had no idea about how to behave. the pages are user unfriendly but > the old solution (ie publically and vocally humiliating posters on > list) was worse (since it discouraged many lurkers with valuable > opinions from speaking out for fear of being shot down in flames). > > i don't think that reading through a page of instructions is too much > to ask for the benefit of the community not having to waste time and > energy shooting down ignorant and disruptive posters. one proof that > this policy works is that the last occasion that i can remember this > being necessary was with somebody who'd subscribed via news. > > i would support a move of the other information on the deeper page > (about the archives, for example) to a better location. i'd also be > happy to support some alternative system (maybe using ezmlm) which > was equally effective. i'd also support any sub-project who was happy > about being listed on the front page being moved there. > > - robert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
