>>> 
>>> This is FUD.  No decisions are being made in private.
>>> 
>> 
>> Isn't everything you disagree with?
> 
> You are making assertions that aren't correct to cast doubt on
> something.  That's commonly known as FUD.
>

I'm sorry, I hallucinated that we were having all of these discussions about
the future of jakarta and how to best reorganize it on
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>> Which is IMHO, PRECISELY why it should take place here.  Why should we
>> describe it if when we can let it describe itself?
> 
> Here I disagree with you, and what you are saying isn't FUD - it's just
> that I disagree.  See the difference?
>

I'm not sure you do.
 
>> 
>>> The ironic thing is that the upshot of what we are discussing is how
>>> to
>>> make governance of Jakarta as inclusive as possible :)
>>> 
>> 
>> Glad you caught that.
> 
> The private list of any PMC has it's place.  The specific problem we
> are solving has to do with governance of Jakarta and how to bring as
> much of the community as possible into that governance process to make
> things as transparent and accountable as possible.  Because there is
> this specific problem, I think that the private list is fine venue for
> the PMC to organize how it is going to approach the problem, especially
> since it's clear that we want to bring this to general@ ASAP.
> 

Ironic.

> Ignoring this is convenient to support a position characterizing
> Jakarta as not open, but ignores the facts of the matter, IMO.
>

Yeah right.  I favor all of the present discussion on PMC@ take place here.
No more secret discussions except when they MUST be secret...  Openness
isn't always convenient.
 
-Andy

> geir
> 
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