>> >> I'm sorry, I hallucinated that we were having all of these discussions >> about >> the future of jakarta and how to best reorganize it on >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Remember what you said. You said that "decisions were being made in > private". >
Oh yes, I hallucinated the [VOTE] threads too. Damn those hallucinations. I hallucinated the refactoring proposal and everything. >> >>>> Which is IMHO, PRECISELY why it should take place here. Why should >>>> we >>>> describe it if when we can let it describe itself? >>> >>> Here I disagree with you, and what you are saying isn't FUD - it's >>> just >>> that I disagree. See the difference? >>> >> >> I'm not sure you do. > > But do you see the difference, right? One is a disagreement, and one is > you making things up. > No Gier, take a deep breath and determine whether you distinguish yourself with this conversation. I shall give you the honor of the last word. -Andy >> >>>> >>>>> The ironic thing is that the upshot of what we are discussing is how >>>>> to >>>>> make governance of Jakarta as inclusive as possible :) >>>>> >>>> >>>> Glad you caught that. >>> >>> The private list of any PMC has it's place. The specific problem we >>> are solving has to do with governance of Jakarta and how to bring as >>> much of the community as possible into that governance process to make >>> things as transparent and accountable as possible. Because there is >>> this specific problem, I think that the private list is fine venue for >>> the PMC to organize how it is going to approach the problem, >>> especially >>> since it's clear that we want to bring this to general@ ASAP. >>> >> >> Ironic. >> >>> Ignoring this is convenient to support a position characterizing >>> Jakarta as not open, but ignores the facts of the matter, IMO. >>> >> >> Yeah right. I favor all of the present discussion on PMC@ take place >> here. >> No more secret discussions except when they MUST be secret... Openness >> isn't always convenient. > > And thinking things through isn't either. But sometimes it must be > done. > > geir > > -- > Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]