Hi Avik, Avik Sengupta wrote: > Wow! The one weekend I decide not to check mail!! :)
I know what you mean :) > > Am replying to the original message for convenience, but have read the > thread till this point. > > Basically, the amount of negativity towards POI project in the thread > seems seems quite painful. > > At the end of the day, I believe we keep saying 'Apache is about > communities'. Legal oversight is important, but if its at the cost of > destroying a community, what's the use? > > I would have voted -1 on this, not because of legal reasons (which I > don't have too strong a view on any more) but because I do not > understand the need for this current intervention. 'Majority' does not > seem to be a good enough reason. Errors in build which have been > promised a fix does not seem a big enuf reason either. I like to know your reason of the -1, despite of what has already been said (and despite of what is said below here) How can we determine what the next appropriate step is if you don't speak up ? > > However, given the strongly negative tone of this thread, I do not wish > to debate this further. Therefore count me in as a 'don't care any more' If you have anything positive to contribute, let me know. I can think of a couple : A lot of development is being done, user list are healthy, so enough to invest energy in. The simple fact is that you are currently part of Jakarta and POI doesn't seem to realize that or to misuse your words "don't care about that". Everything that affects POI actually affects Jakarta. I've been a VP Jakarta for about 6 months now and I actually never had the feeling that POI was part of that, even though I am the one who his held accountable of what happens at POI. With the releases going bad, even though there is PMC representation for POI, was the ultimate trigger for this vote as an initial start to improve things and after that taking the next steps (I summed them up already). So your remark about don't care anymore is not making me very happy, since I hoped you would start caring, although I hope I misinterpreted that remark and making assumptions that are wrong. The big problem is that no one from POI is actually making any effort to clear any misinterpretations and assumptions. Hope you understand what I am trying to say. > > I'd have been happy seeing POI move to a TLP. However, some of the > comments in this thread seem to preclude that possibility either. I > think his leaves the community between a rock and a hard place ... I > dont want us to be subsumed as a commons project Subsuming is not something I see happening, we already have enough sub sub projects. The total projects in Jakarta is currently at 109 (only sub projects and projects without sub projects are counted). Mvgr, Martin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
