I work with humanities people and No one wants to create metadata. RDF, they don't understand. Believe me, I've tried (triplets, why is that so hard?). If they do, they don't understand (a) the rigidity imposed by the structuration and (b) the level of abstraction needed to describe the domain. That's why some kind of structured, hierarchical metadata-on-the-fly from crowdsourcing is so interesting. What's needed is structures (data gathering plus hierarchy plus reputation system) put in place where domain experts and other interested parties can check the results. By results, I mean not only getting the concepts (most likely a controlled vocabulary) right but also the relationships among concepts right.

Renee

SteveC wrote:

On 6 May 2009, at 15:56, Sean Gillies wrote:
On May 6, 2009, at 4:41 PM, P Kishor wrote:

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:18 PM, SteveC <[email protected]> wrote:

On 4 May 2009, at 08:44, Ed Parsons wrote:

The general scepticism here I think is well placed, semantic based systems always demo well, the key to more widespread adoption is the automation of the still largely manual creation of ontological relationships. But one day
I'm sure this will work, after-all TBL is usually right.

Come on, nobody believes the web of data stuff anymore surely. If they did
someone would do something like RDF but actually usable and easily
implementable in actual HTML.


That would be RDFa, or GRDDL.

Yeah so I just looked through the wikipedia pages on both, they feel a bit unloved. They don't look like a whole lot of fun, and the chicken and egg of no data to crawl and no crawler for the data must be frustrating.

Has anyone spent any time on what would make people actually mark this stuff up?

It seems HTML5 has told RDFa to FOAD.

Nice.

Best

Steve


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