if the iPhone loader is locked, as it's said to be, then it really doesn't matter what OS is in the box. We do have SJ on the record talking about the risk of un-approved software somehow taking down Cingular due to a misplaced semicolon, to justify his decision to exclude meddlers[1].

You are slightly misunderstanding the Roomba example.

iRobot is not like a cell carrier in this important way: they don't make incremental revenue each time someone vacuums a floor. Thus, their economic incentives derive from "sales of more hardware" not from "increased usage" (replacements due to wear and tear excluded).

I was trying to show that for iRobot, incentive toward more profit/ more market share was created in part by hobbyists (using an already- provided DB9 port, iirc - a cheap, exploratory teaser, "try me"), and then nurtured with helpful FAQs from the vendor, and finally seized as a product opportunity once there was a sign of a coming critical mass, to the benefit of all involved. But iRobot left the door open a little from the very start, and used the hobbyists to test the waters.

To change the wireless landscape requires equivalent guidance toward more profit/more market share, for carriers.

In other words, "why should they bother?" "Because it would be nice" is unfortunately not a good answer to that.

The inverse motivation (aka fear, or "negative reinforcement") can be used... that is, guidance away from lost profit/lost market share (e.g. if "a competitor" makes a first move, or a big disruptive other- thing appears). "If you FAIL to come around to the new way, you're dead" can work, but the carrot's easier than the stick.

Many have talked, thought, and scratched their heads, but to date nobody's figured out a workable formula that would allow cellular phone users to lead carriers, even a little. So the present situation not just in the closed-ness of the networks and devices, but in the sad condition of customer service generally.

The players are so big that the force needed to lead them down that road must also be big or broadly based.

The platforms/networks they have given us to use are pretty good at tamping down any such forces before they become pervasive enough to be of concern. Or in English, the masses can't fall in love with and demand more of your new free mobile application if they can't get it and don't know about it. Carriers control what their customers know and use. Customers are happy enough with the status quo.

I think the standard template requires that I write something hopeful here, but that would feel insincere.

There is precedent for vendors of captive services (ISP services, paging, other) to allow limited exploration of their networks, provided such explorations are wired into some good-faith capture of revenue and/or market share. For example, a paging company "allowed" me to write software for, and test on, their system, because if the software I was trying to create actually worked, they could sell many more pagers. The ISP "Speakeasy.net" has written agile agreements that allow redistribution of the DSL over an open wireless access point, support gaming, and so on, bringing business and referrals from customers who want those things.

I suggest that the best way to go about getting what's desired here is not going to be a clever hack that touches a tiny fraction of those who can even afford a very expensive device like an iPhone.

Rather, how do we put the right people in the right spot with the right carrier, to nudge that door open the first little bit, as happened successfully for iRobot, the paging company, and the ISP in the examples here? Cell companies actually a bit open in the early days when they were starved for applications. That's changed now. How do we change it back?

Those doing the asking are not going to be able to make demands like "it must be free for everyone forever". Carriers, and companies generally, don't respond to that. Wire independent innovation into market success for those who support the innovators, and it will be permitted.

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[1] "non-revenue generators"


On Jan 15, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Marcus Kirsch wrote:

First of all I disagree with some points like , yes noone is using linux on ipod, but iphone is already running os x. Plus we had examples of people using the new macbook's sensors to create little apps that unfortunately havent found some real use, yet as Jim himself giving the example of the Roomba sweepers, new products can come out of this and hacking or reverse engineering however you call it is not just a "rebel" hobby, you might call it as well innovation no matter what, which is interesting coming from someone seemingly situated at the MIT. Nevertheless I fully agree on the uselessness talking about projects and ideas based on rumored functionality.

marCus

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