Hello List,

I feel obliged to respond to this slur on-list, to set the record
straight publicly.

on the 26/10/04 22:12, miriam clinton (iriXx) wrote:
Aside from the huge thread that I seem to have perpetrated, which I'll follow given time, I'd like to explain a reason for my sudden disappearance into lurkdom on this list.

A lurker, and noticeably, a non-reader of this list, who I shall now name, a certain Jonathon Grant, has been writing to me unsolicitedly at

"Jonathan". Please spell my name correctly in all of your slurs. I need legal clarity.

my private email address giving quite attacking and unnecessary criticisms of my websites and their 'conformity to w3c standards'.

I certainly did not state that. Please provide the email with full headers if you wish to substantiate your quote.

You posted to me, and many others, with your website addresses. You
solicited the help of us.  If you then change your mind about things you
only have yourself to blame. You may like to consider un-subscribing
from this list.

My websites are irrelevant to the productivity of this list, and I am 'outing' his behaviour to the list as I believe it is extremely rude and unproductive. It puts people off, rather than encourages people to use Free software - it perpetuates the image that Free Software advocates brow-beat others into submission and into using their so-called Free software. Yes, Free Software is Free by license, and that is why I prefer to use it. But to be Free, one must give Freedom of Choice to others - Freedom to choose Free Software or otherwise.

What a load of rubbish. This is off topic, I do not think it is reasonable to continue this thread.

I am assisting this list, as a graphic designer, to help GIMP outperform Photoshop and, hopefully, become the preferred tool for graphic design. But, as I've already said, GIMP, Sodipodi and Inkscape (which I downloaded yesterday) are really not there yet. GIMP is very, very close - but crashes easily. Sodipodi and Inkscape are nowhere near.

I've already cited the list of applications I use - I brought them to this list in order to help the list understand the needs of a graphic designer.

Mr. Grant then suggested that I 'don't use GIMP at all'.

I certainly did not state that. I charge compensation at my hourly rate of 50. My solicitors will bill will be 100 per hour in addition if you do not withdraw that statement. Additionally I will report your abuse to your ISPs. Please provide the email with full headers if you wish to substantiate your quote.

Que?

Or as Madonna said, in my previous (and CC-licensed) project, 'WTF?'
(I co-produced the Madonna Remix Project - see www.iriXx.org/madonna.htm).

And yes, it ends in .htm - Mr. Grant criticised me for such trivial matters as abbreviated endings.

May I ask who the manager of this list is, and how you suggest to deal with unsolicited and insulting email coming from members who do not even contribute to the list, but instead seek out new members (I suggest, primarily women) to exercise their technical 'expertise'.

Mr. Grant has chosen the wrong person to mess with, if he's trying that avenue.

But I don't like fights, and thats the purpose of this message - to make an example of a person who is so cowardly as to go behind the back of this list and criticise my efforts privately - without even reading of my contributions towards the Free Software movement.

Yet more unsubstantiated allegations, should I call my solicitor yet? Withdraw all your slurs within 48 hours if you do not wish me to take this matter further. Post your apology to this list. As you have slurred in-front of every member of this list about my good name.

An apology and retraction now will save me a lot of time; and you a lot of
money.

mC~


As you said over email, you don't like "criticism". I am unsure if being online and part of a community is a good idea for you.

I have attached our brief communications, I would not like this list to
believe I was the impolite one.

They are numbered in sequence.  I have not changed any of their contents
after saving from Mozilla Messenger:

1_response_to_iriXx_email.txt
2_miriam_clinton.txt
3_response.txt

Please read and confirm for yourselves.

As always, Kind regards

JG
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Subject:
Re: [Gimp-developer] first impressions of GIMP 2.0
From:
"J. Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:15:59 +0100
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello Miriam,

Your feedback about GIMP is interesting.

> 99% of aliens prefer Earth
> --Eminem
>
> www.iriXx.org
> www.copyleftmedia.org.uk


Just had a look at both of your sites above.

I am not sure if you are aware of the problem with your website.  The
World Wide Web Consortium (http://www.w3c.org/) manage and control the
HTML standards for the WWW.  Your website does not follow the standard
correctly unfortunately.  This causes display problems.

Fortunately the W3C provide a free online validation engine.  You can
use this tool to check your HTML/XHTML/CSS is in conformance with the
official standards supported by all the WWW browsers (Mozilla,
Microsoft Internet Explorer, Opera, KDE Konqueror, Apple Safari etc):

http://validator.w3.org/

Then your website maintainers will be able to correct the present problems.

Also I notice you are using ".htm" for filenames.  That is quite a
MS-Windows specific abreviation. I wonder if would you consider using
".html" ?  This is what is intended by convention.  If you are worried
about non 8.3 format filenames; since Win95 and WinNT all MS-Windows
Operating Systems have supported standard mixed case filenames with no
limit on the extension.

I hope you take this positive feedback onboard, I do not intend this to
sound critical of your position.

Kind regards

Jonathan Grant

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Subject:
Re: [Gimp-developer] first impressions of GIMP 2.0
From:
copyleftmedia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:38:48 -0700
To:
"J. Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello Jonathon,

You know what?

While I like my site very much too, I don't like unsolicited criticism.

So you can take your essay and put it where it fits.




J. Grant wrote:

> Hello Miriam,
>
> Your feedback about GIMP is interesting.
>
>> 99% of aliens prefer Earth
>> --Eminem
>>
>> www.iriXx.org
>> www.copyleftmedia.org.uk
>
>
>
> Just had a look at both of your sites above.
>
> I am not sure if you are aware of the problem with your website.  The
> World Wide Web Consortium (http://www.w3c.org/) manage and control the
> HTML standards for the WWW.  Your website does not follow the standard
> correctly unfortunately.  This causes display problems.
>
> Fortunately the W3C provide a free online validation engine.  You can
> use this tool to check your HTML/XHTML/CSS is in conformance with the
> official standards supported by all the WWW browsers (Mozilla,
> Microsoft Internet Explorer, Opera, KDE Konqueror, Apple Safari etc):
>
> http://validator.w3.org/
>
> Then your website maintainers will be able to correct the present problems.
>
> Also I notice you are using ".htm" for filenames.  That is quite a
> MS-Windows specific abreviation. I wonder if would you consider using
> ".html" ?  This is what is intended by convention.  If you are worried
> about non 8.3 format filenames; since Win95 and WinNT all MS-Windows
> Operating Systems have supported standard mixed case filenames with no
> limit on the extension.
>
> I hope you take this positive feedback onboard, I do not intend this to
> sound critical of your position.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Jonathan Grant
>


-- 
www.iriXx.org
www.copyleftmedia.org.uk





Subject:
Re: [Gimp-developer] first impressions of GIMP 2.0
From:
"J. Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:43:10 +0100
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello Miriam

> You know what?
>
> While I like my site very much too, I don't like unsolicited criticism.


I think you have misunderstood my polite diplomatic email; please read
the whole of my email, including the  last sentence.

> So you can take your essay and put it where it fits.


That is a rather odd attitude. I had expected you to be reasonable
considering you solicited the help of us on the GIMP developers list.

You sound as though you are not a real GIMP user after all with those
attitude problems. Also you appear to have a very anti-CC attitude,
which is rather bizarre.  Either that or perhaps copyleftmedia.org.uk
has been hijacked by crackers.

Please reconsider your remarks.

Kind regards

JG

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