Ok.

Apologies to the UI team. I just took a look at the UI wiki and they
seem to tackle all my complaints.
I was just frustrated. Sorry for the totally unwarranted rant of the
earlier message.

But we still need a better image for the drop target in the toolbox.
hehe

Regards,

Flávio.

Em Sáb, 2008-10-04 às 16:38 +0000, Alchemie foto\grafiche escreveu:

> Fl?vio Pontes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote
> 
> is not a good
> > indicator for
> > a drop target. Not one of the ppl I showed it - all of them
> > designers -
> > recognized it as a drop target and, frankly, the image in
> > there is
> > simply wrong. If we need to make it recognizable as a drop
> > target, we
> > need to make it a drop target icon, that's all
> 
> do you have a example for a "recognizable drop target "?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Sab 4/10/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
> 
> > Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Oggetto: Gimp-developer Digest, Vol 73, Issue 10
> > A: gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
> > Data: Sabato 4 ottobre 2008, 18:07
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> >    1. Re: Gimp 2.6. Segfault (Stephan Hegel)
> >    2. Re: Automatically save curves file (Kent Tenney)
> >    3. Re: Automatically save curves file (David Gowers)
> >    4. Re: Automatically save curves file (Kent Tenney)
> >    5. Re: The toolbox Wilber problem (Fl?vio Pontes)
> >    6. Re: The toolbox Wilber problem (William Steidtmann)
> >    7. Re: The toolbox Wilber problem (Sven Neumann)
> > 
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 09:41:41 +0200
> > From: Stephan Hegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2.6. Segfault
> > To: gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Sven Neumann wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 18:15 +0200, Stephan Hegel
> > wrote:
> > >> Gimp-2.6 throws a segfault for me. 
> > > It would help a lot if you could file a bug report for
> > this. Thanks.
> > You're welcome: #554966.
> > 
> > Rgds,
> >   Stephan.
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 06:17:16 -0500
> > From: "Kent Tenney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Automatically save curves
> > file
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu
> > Message-ID:
> >     <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > 
> > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:01 PM,
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Quoting Kent Tenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > >> will there be provisions to apply a saved curve to
> > an image without the
> > >> gui?
> > >>
> > >
> > > If you have the GIMP Animation Package installed, you
> > will find a plug-in
> > > named 'plug-in-wr-curves' which permits
> > application of a curves file.
> > 
> > I don't have GAP installed.
> > 
> > I've installed Gimp 2.6 on Ubuntu 8.04 using .deb's
> > from
> > http://www.getdeb.net/app/Gimp
> > 
> > will
> > apt-get install gimp-gap
> > 
> > do what I want?
> > or is there more to it?
> > (I don't want to try and see for fear of breaking
> > things)
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Kent
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > plug-in-wr-curves
> > >
> > >  GIMP Plug-in
> > >
> > >  <Image>/Video/Layer/Colors/
> > >
> > >  Wrapper for GIMP Curves Tool call based on Curves
> > file
> > >
> > > Parameters
> > >
> > >  run-mode      INT32      Interactive, non-interactive
> > >  image         IMAGE      Input image
> > >  drawable      DRAWABLE   Input drawable (must be a
> > layer)
> > >  filename      STRING     Name of a GIMP curves file
> > (saved by the Curves
> > > Tool)
> > >
> > > Return Values
> > >
> > >  the-drawable  DRAWABLE   the processed layer
> > >
> > > Additional Information
> > >
> > >  This Plugin loads a # GIMP Curves File, that was
> > saved by
> > >  the GIMP 2.0pre1 Curves Tool then calculates the
> > curves
> > >  (256 points foreach channel val,r,g,b,a) and calls
> > the
> > >  Curve Tool via PDB interface with the calculated
> > curve
> > >  points It also stores the points, and offers a
> > >  GIMP_RUN_WITH_LAST_VALUES Interface and an Iterator
> > >  Procedure for animated calls of the Curves Tool with
> > >  varying values.
> > >
> > > Author: Wolfgang Hofer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > >
> > > Date:   2.4.1; 2008/01/30
> > >
> > > Copyright: Wolfgang Hofer
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 22:36:03 +0930
> > From: "David Gowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Automatically save curves
> > file
> > To: "Kent Tenney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu
> > Message-ID:
> >     <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > 
> > Hi Kent,
> > 
> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Kent Tenney
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:01 PM,
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Quoting Kent Tenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >>
> > >>> will there be provisions to apply a saved
> > curve to an image without the
> > >>> gui?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> If you have the GIMP Animation Package installed,
> > you will find a plug-in
> > >> named 'plug-in-wr-curves' which permits
> > application of a curves file.
> > >
> > > I don't have GAP installed.
> > >
> > > I've installed Gimp 2.6 on Ubuntu 8.04 using
> > .deb's from
> > > http://www.getdeb.net/app/Gimp
> > >
> > > will
> > > apt-get install gimp-gap
> > >
> > > do what I want?
> > AFAIK yes.
> > > or is there more to it?
> > > (I don't want to try and see for fear of breaking
> > things)
> > There should be nothing to break -- GIMP-GAP is only a
> > suite of
> > plugins, if you install it and find it doesn't work,
> > it's easy enough
> > to remove it using Synaptic.
> > 
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kent
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > HTH,
> > David
> > 
> > -- 
> > Everything has reasons. Nothing has justification.
> > ?io havas kialojn; Nenia?o havas pravigeron.
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 09:50:12 -0500
> > From: "Kent Tenney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Automatically save curves
> > file
> > Cc: Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu
> > Message-ID:
> >     <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > 
> > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:01 PM,
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Quoting Kent Tenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > >> will there be provisions to apply a saved curve to
> > an image without the
> > >> gui?
> > >>
> > >
> > > If you have the GIMP Animation Package installed, you
> > will find a plug-in
> > > named 'plug-in-wr-curves' which permits
> > application of a curves file.
> > >
> > > plug-in-wr-curves
> > >
> > >  GIMP Plug-in
> > >
> > >  <Image>/Video/Layer/Colors/
> > >
> > >  Wrapper for GIMP Curves Tool call based on Curves
> > file
> > >
> > > Parameters
> > >
> > >  run-mode      INT32      Interactive, non-interactive
> > >  image         IMAGE      Input image
> > >  drawable      DRAWABLE   Input drawable (must be a
> > layer)
> > >  filename      STRING     Name of a GIMP curves file
> > (saved by the Curves
> > > Tool)
> > >
> > > Return Values
> > >
> > >  the-drawable  DRAWABLE   the processed layer
> > >
> > > Additional Information
> > >
> > >  This Plugin loads a # GIMP Curves File, that was
> > saved by
> > >  the GIMP 2.0pre1 Curves Tool
> > 
> > Darn, it seems this won't help, the format of the Gimp
> > 2.6 autosaved curves
> > file must be different than the one this plugin was written
> > against.
> > 
> > Very cool stuff in GAP though.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Kent
> > 
> >  then calculates the curves
> > >  (256 points foreach channel val,r,g,b,a) and calls
> > the
> > >  Curve Tool via PDB interface with the calculated
> > curve
> > >  points It also stores the points, and offers a
> > >  GIMP_RUN_WITH_LAST_VALUES Interface and an Iterator
> > >  Procedure for animated calls of the Curves Tool with
> > >  varying values.
> > >
> > > Author: Wolfgang Hofer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > >
> > > Date:   2.4.1; 2008/01/30
> > >
> > > Copyright: Wolfgang Hofer
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:13:31 -0300
> > From: Fl?vio Pontes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] The toolbox Wilber problem
> > To: GIMP Developers List
> > <gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU>
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > 
> > Tobias, I apologize for replying to your personal address.
> > Here's to the
> > list.
> > 
> > IMHO it is just a waste of space because it is not a good
> > indicator for
> > a drop target. Not one of the ppl I showed it - all of them
> > designers -
> > recognized it as a drop target and, frankly, the image in
> > there is
> > simply wrong. If we need to make it recognizable as a drop
> > target, we
> > need to make it a drop target icon, that's all. A
> > Wilber background
> > image tha doesn't even show up entirely is a poor
> > indicator. It looks
> > more as a - ugly, but that's debatable - decoration
> > than anything else.
> > 
> > I'm not saying that we shouldn't have a drop target
> > in the toolbox
> > window, but that it should be more obvious and take less
> > space from the
> > tools that are the main function of the window.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Fl?vio.
> > 
> > Am Freitag, den 03.10.2008, 11:13 -0700 schrieb Patrick
> > Horgan:
> > > Martin Nordholts wrote:
> > > > ~~~%< snip! >%~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > What are peoples thoughts here?
> > > >   
> > > He's cute there, but doesn't add any
> > functionality, no?  
> > 
> > He is there, to indicate that the toolbox is an drop area
> > for images.
> > Like the Wilbert in the empty window.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Tobias
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> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 10:57:28 -0500
> > From: William Steidtmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] The toolbox Wilber problem
> > To: gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> > 
> > I also think that the toolbox Wilber is an inefficient use
> > of space, so 
> > here is an idea (my apologies if this has already been
> > discussed/thought 
> > of):  Right now there are 3 status items in 
> > Preferences->Toolbox->Appearance, that when checked
> > appear below the 
> > toolbox tool icons.  Add a 4th status item choice which
> > would appear as 
> > a drop box/icon with Wilber's face in it.  Those who
> > like having it can 
> > check it on, and those who feel that any/all 4 items are
> > wasted space 
> > can turn all 4 off.  The space above the toolbox is
> > eliminated.
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> > -- 
> > The second mouse gets the cheese.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:06:44 +0200
> > From: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] The toolbox Wilber problem
> > To: William Steidtmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > if you don't like it, or it doesn't fit your screen
> > layout, then why
> > don't you just turn it off? There's a gimprc option
> > for this and it is
> > documented. There is no UI for it, but that should be OK.
> > There are
> > quite a few options that don't have a UI, simply
> > because they are not
> > considered important enough to clutter the preferences
> > dialog (which is
> > still way too cluttered).
> > 
> > 
> > Sven
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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