Quoting Alexandre Prokoudine <alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com>:
> On 7/25/10, Olivier wrote:
>> I cannot count how many times I have been happy to be able to reach almost
>> everything from a simple right-click. If other image manipulation
>> applications cannot offer this possibility, too bad for them.
> Don't use 2.7 and above then, 'cause Text tool now has its own
> right-click menu and its *useful*.
However, the Text tool's contextual menu is only presented when the
right-click occurs within the text frame; right-clicking outside of
the frame still provides access to main menu.
> GIMP has three ways to access menu currently: menu bar, top-left
> button where ruler's origin is and right-click menu. This is bloat.
The first two methods are not always available.
> Besides, as already mentioned, some tools can make a much better use
> of right-click menu then simply duplicating contents of the whole
> app's menu. Consistence in UI is a number one priority.
While not a sufficient reason for rejection, it should be noted that
such a change (so that tools could have their own right- and/or
middle-click functions) would require modifying the code of all the
tools (currently all mouse click events are treated by tools as
left-clicks since right- and middle-clicks would have already been
"Consistence in UI" would seem to me an argument FOR the current
behavior, especially if one considers that other types of input
devices (pads, pens, touchscreens, etc) commonly share only a single
type of triggering "click". Imposing a "left-click"-only constraint on
tools is certainly limiting, but it simplifies the task of learning
the interface (not to mention coding to it, maintaining it, and
>> interesting, new capabilities, but not try to remove somewhat which has
>> existed from the first version of GIMP, simply because you don't use it.
> Dear Olivier, the "because we always did so" kind of argumentation is
> an utter nonsense. Please never use it. It's wrong and causes holy
> wars, cancer, premature bald spots and heart attacks. Also, god kills
> a kitten every time you say that.
Far from being "utter nonsense", consistency over time is a valid
engineering consideration in any assessment of trade-offs of proposed
product changes. This is especially true of user interface changes
which have significant downstream impact upon other developers,
document teams, and language translators (edit: I almost forgot, and
> The history of GIMP has proved that some things that were understood
> as right turned out to be completely wrong.
Undoubtedly true. Nonetheless, the vast majority of the approaches
taken by GIMP in the past were the result of sober appraisal and sound
reasoning at the time. Certainly circumstances may change and
opportunities arise to improve things; but decisions made previously
by GIMP developers should not be dismissed lightly, and especially not
without reasonable consideration of the original reasons behind them.
I have no real objection to modifying the image window context menu
behavior. I will say that I often use windows which have neither
rulers nor menubar displayed and it is absolutely critical that a way
of accessing the menu be available. I'd have no objection to an
ALT+right-click option or somesuch; however, I should not be surprised
if, after due consideration, the costs of allowing tools to respond to
middle- or right-button mouse events are deemed not to outweigh the
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