On Feb 10, 10:24 am, "crandles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The 100 year event would
> only be up to an estimated 10% chance in that 5 year period. Would
> such information change farmers' decisions as to what crops to grow
> and if so would there be much benefit?
>
> So is there even a case for suggesting that even if 'it gives better
> skill than climatological persistence!'.... ?

Farmers are obviously concerned about risk of extreme damage (floods
etc), but as you suggest, they happen anyway and changes in frequency
of the size you describe are unlikely to drive decision making in the
short term.

Multi-year to decadal forecasting is directly relevant, however, since
if it can be made to work, it can deliver really useful information.
To use my vineyard example, if a five to ten year forecast suggests
significant extra summer heat, it might be prudent to graft vines over
to a different variety - or at least hedge your bets. This sort of
information would also be valuable to insurers.

There seem, from a quick Google, to be at least two groups
investigating, one at the Met Office and one at the Max Plank:

http://www.atm.damtp.cam.ac.uk/shuckburgh/ESM/poster/murphy.pdf

https://www.mpimet.mpg.de/fileadmin/staff/pohlmannholger/pdf/pohlmann_keenlyside_hawaii_2004.pdf

I particularly like the quote from Niels Bohr on the last page of the
second pdf: "Prediction is very difficult, especially about the
future."


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