On Jan 18, 2:30 pm, Phil Randal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, what George Monbiot says is that we in the "west" should
> reduce our consumption by 90%.
There must be more to it than that. That would be maybe 30% of the
total, assuming BAU for China and India?
>
> He gets that figure from considering equitable shares per capita
> worldwide.
>
> Now, if we're going to go the whole hog and pay carbon reparations for
> our gluttonous behaviour in the past, this figure should be much
> higher, but even Monbiot doesn't seem to have twigged on to the
> concept of a share over a greater period of time other than annual
> consumption. If he'd factored in our past consumption into the
> equation I think we profligate ones would have to have negative carbon
> consumption for quite some time.
>
> Phil (with tongue partly in cheek)
>
> On Jan 18, 6:01 pm, "William Connolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > monbiot does in deed say this (i don't think he says eco collapse; he
> > does say terrible consequences). i think his logic is faulty, though.
>
> > -w.
>
> > On 18/01/2008, Don Libby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Today I read a statement in the popular press that strikes me as absurd,
> > > but
> > > is it true?
>
> > > "The world must reduce carbon emissions by 90% by 2030 to avert an
> > > ecosystem
> > > collapse..."
>
> > > The quote appeared in "The Stay-at-Home Vacation", Hannah Karp Jan 18,
> > > 2008
> > > _Wall Street Journal_ page W3 and is attributed to a 2007 book, "Heat: How
> > > to Stop the Planet From Burning," by Guardian columnist George Monbiot.
>
> > > -dl
>
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> > William M. Connolley |www.wmconnolley.org.uk|07985 935400- Hide quoted text
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