On Apr 25, 4:34 pm, oku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I currently have a discusion with a skeptic. I am trying to get the > point across that the radiation balance of the earth can only be > influenced by the three factors 1) solar radiation, 2) albedo and 3) > absorption of long wave radiation by the atmosphere (see > here:http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/FAQ/wg1_faq-1.1.html). If we have high > average temperature during El Nino, and low during La Nina periods, > then this *seems* to contradict that. I understand that in El Nino, > warm ocean water releases heat to the atmosphere, and during a La Nina > the cold ocean water soaks up that heat. Since we measure surface > temperatures and not deep ocean temperatures, there is no > contradiction. Is that correct? Would it also be correct to conclude > that long term changes in ocean currents therefore cannot change the > average temperature of the earth (disregarding feedbacks), but just > local climates, because the amount of energy that can be released/ > soaked up by the oceans is finite? (The guy I have the discussion with > seems to be a fan of William Gray) > > Thanks, > Oliver
Here's theory that there is heat transfer out of the Pacific during El Nino: http://www.cnn.com/NATURE/9902/23/global.warming.enn/index.html Seems be a theory to explain a single event in 1998. So the correlation is theoretical right, not in evidence beyond the 1998 event? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Global Change ("globalchange") newsgroup. Global Change is a public, moderated venue for discussion of science, technology, economics and policy dimensions of global environmental change. Posts will be admitted to the list if and only if any moderator finds the submission to be constructive and/or interesting, on topic, and not gratuitously rude. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/globalchange -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
