On May 1, 1:01 pm, "Michael Tobis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Indeed this would be a serious setback in the short term, inevitably. As
> James points out on his blog, it will also provide an interesting test of
> model fidelity. I think it will be of some use polemically if it verifies
> and of some use scientifically in either case.
>
> Note that there is substantial decadal variability so such a hiatus is to be
> expected sooner or later. David Appell has a nice terse summary and an
> instructive
> graphic.http://davidappell.blogspot.com/2008/05/coming-global-cooling.html
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> As a sort of tarnished silver lining, if this pans out, when things bounce
> back people will overestimate the rate of warming yielding some
> overcompensation for imminent underestimation.
>
> mt
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> On 5/1/08, Raymond Arritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Tom Adams wrote:
> > > "Average temperatures in areas such as California and France may drop
> > > over the next 10 years, influenced by colder flows in the North
> > > Atlantic, said a report today by the institution based in Kiel,
> > > Germany. Temperatures worldwide may stabilize in the period."
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> >http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aU.evtnk6DPo&refe...
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> > They showed these results at the EGU meeting a couple of weeks ago.
> > When Keenlyside said that internal decadal variability could offset
> > expected warming over the next decade, I shuddered... certain people
> > will use the spurious break in the trend as an excuse to delay
> > addressing the long-term problem.
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> > Ray- Hide quoted text -
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The Bloomberg article said "Temperatures worldwide may stabilize in
the period" the period being the next 10 years. Is that not what
the report said?
The article gives the impression that the oceans should be heating up
even if the global temperature is not going up. So is there some
other observation (other than global surface temperature) that will
show global warming even if 1998 remains as the record surface
temperature for 20 years?
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