"Average temperatures in areas such as California and France may drop
over the next 10 years, influenced by colder flows in the North
Atlantic, said a report today by the institution based in Kiel,
Germany. Temperatures worldwide may stabilize in the period."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aU.evtnk6DPo&refer=worldwide

On Apr 25, 4:34 pm, oku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I currently have a discusion with a skeptic. I am trying to get the
> point across that the radiation balance of the earth can only be
> influenced by the three factors 1) solar radiation, 2) albedo and 3)
> absorption of long wave radiation by the atmosphere (see 
> here:http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/FAQ/wg1_faq-1.1.html). If we have high
> average temperature during El Nino, and low during La Nina periods,
> then this *seems* to contradict that. I understand that in El Nino,
> warm ocean water releases heat to the atmosphere, and during a La Nina
> the cold ocean water soaks up that heat. Since we measure surface
> temperatures and not deep ocean temperatures, there is no
> contradiction. Is that correct? Would it also be correct to conclude
> that long term changes in ocean currents therefore cannot change the
> average temperature of the earth (disregarding feedbacks), but just
> local climates, because the amount of energy that can be released/
> soaked up by the oceans is finite? (The guy I have the discussion with
> seems to be a fan of William Gray)
>
> Thanks,
> Oliver
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