On Nov 30, 2:36 pm, Eric Swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David B. Benson wrote:
> > On Nov 28, 4:18 pm, Eric Swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > ... For
> > > example, does your model reproduce the measured lapse rate in the
> > > atmosphere?
>
> > Actually, the measured lapse rate doesn't quite agree with standard
> > theory, if I understand what I am reading.
>
> Well, the lapse rate does vary with latitude and season, as well as
> with weather. I would expect that the current models would have a
> difficult time handling all the different conditions. But the
> ultimate question is, does Alastair have a better model?
>
> Alastair claims that the sonde data is to be preferred for climate
> assessment. The sondes measure the temperature profile, from which
> the local lapse rate is derived. It seems to me that he should show
> us how well his "model" can match the sonde data. Surely he knows the
> importance of model verification. So, Alastair, where's the data from
> your "model"???
>
> Hint: Produce a graph and post it on one of the image hosting sites,
> then give us the link...
>
> E. S.
> ---
Eric,
You are correct. I should be working on producing my paper rather than
spending my time composing notes here which I
vainly believe will deliver the killer punch.
However, I do have a theoretical model which I produced a couple of
years ago, where the Upper Troposphere temperature does not rise when
CO2 concentrations do. At the time I did not know what the correct
source function was. The source function is the second term in the
Schawrzchild equation viz. B(T)kρ. I now believe that the form of the
source function is correct. It is just that T should not be the
kinetic temperature that is used bu the models. It should be the
vibrational temperature which is considerably lower.
Anyway, here is the model. What do you think?
http://www.abmcdonald.freeserve.co.uk/brief/brief.htm
Cheers, Alastair.
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