Alastair wrote:

> I (and Newton) say that warming is caused by absorption.  After WWII
> they found that the lines were narrower at high altitude, but the
> radiation has all been absorbed well before it reaches that height.
> In fact it is nearly all absorbed in the first 30m.  John Tyndall
> reckoned that 10% was absorbed in the within the first 6 feet.

What happens to the energy that corresponds to the absorbed radiation?
Since energy cannot be created or destroyed (leaving relativistic
effects aside here), do the lowest few tens of meters continue to heat
indefinitely?

> There are two things happening.  There is the greenhouse warming at
> the surface of the atmosphere, and there is OLR at the top of the
> atmosphere. The OLR has to balance the ISR but it cannot change
> because it is coming from the mesosphere which does not respond to the
> surface temperature. (I am leaving a lot out, but you should be able
> to see the picture.)

Where does the OLR come from, if (as you state) all the outgoing
radiation from the surface is absorbed in the lowest few tens of meters?



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