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Larry . You did not accuse anyone of being a terrorist. If you feel safer now flying (in airliners) that is a good thing. I am just questioning the efforts of some acts the authorities do to us in name of the safety. It is the abuse of the power what I am afraid of. I respect your opinion and wish you a nice 4th of July. Hartmut Larry Wilkins wrote: > This really ticks me off!! Where did I accuse you or anyone else of being a > terrorist? I just made a point of the fact that the rules have changed, and > I'm glad they have. When I next fly, I want to have a reasonable chance of > not only reaching my destination, but of feeling safe along the way. > Larry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anthony Timm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Ercoupers" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 1:20 PM > Subject: RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Off Topic: This just in from AOPA > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any > advice in this forum.]---- > > > > > > Couldn't have said it better myself. -THANK YOU > > I'm so proud to be part of such a great group. I had to bow out of > > the conversation after being "accused" of being a terrorist by Wilkins. > > I just happen to be a disabled vet and felt I should keep my anger out > > of the conversation. > > The price of freedom has been paid for by the blood of many American's > > of our past. Imagine how they would feel if we allowed a few confused > > individuals to give away the freedom's THEY paid for.. are job is easy- > > guard the Liberty they paid for. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Hartmut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 1:21 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: Larry Wilkins; Ercoupers > > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Off Topic: This just in from AOPA > > > > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any > > advice in this forum.]---- > > > > > > Hello all. > > I am a German who learned to love the United States for it's Freedom. > > When I read: > > "It's a shame that circumstances now require that we lose a > > little more of our freedom, but I am willing to give up a little freedom > so > > that I can feel a little more free." > > I picture the government putting on chains on the people with the excuse > > that it is for your own safety. I know where I saw that already. The > > same reasoning was used by the Communists to explain to the people why > > they could not do so many things. It was for "their own safety". > > If you willingly give in in such false arguing you probably do not > > deserve the freedom you currently enjoy. > > As for the facts. Arguing that "have it be the way it was on > > 9-11....Over...and Over....and Over?" is just simply not to the truth. > > Half of the terrorists would have checked out fine in background checks. > > None of the Terrorist had firearms with them. All had clean paperwork, > > passes and tickets. Nobody was violating the law. > > A Background check would have not caught them, nor a requirement to > > carry a picture Pilots ID, because they did board as passengers. > > > > All these actions the government is doing now is just to ensure > > this:"that I can feel a little more free". And exactly that happens, > > some people just FEEL a little more free. But they are not, they are > > also not safer. Nothing really useful has been done to stop or avoid > > terrorists actions by taking away BASIC rights of the public. > > Meanwhile we as the normal people are criminalized and become an easy > > prey for the authorities. > > If you think that ones the government agencies are having the ability > > to do legally background checks on pilots, that they would stop by > > finding no connections to militant groups then you are a fool. > > Picture this : When doing your BFR your PPL will be denied because you > > was ones in your youth arrested for possession of marihuana. You will > > never fly again. All because some people think" that I can feel a little > > more free." > > > > > > Hartmut N3330H > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following > any > > advice in this forum.]---- > > > > > > Larry, > > > > > > If you are that scared of life living free then you can build a bomb and > > > fallout shelter in the west somewhere and live a fine life that will > meet > > > your needs. For the others like myself who cherish our freedom and do > not > > > wish to be treated like criminals when we have to fly on airlines or > want > > > to see a public fireworks display or go to our local FBO and meet the > > > requirement of the FAA regulations to have a BFR, I can say that we find > > > the position of cowering in the corner and expecting the Government to > do > > > away with my civil rights just to keep a few, tragic, events from > happing > > > is not the way we want to go. > > > > > > Our President tells us we are at WAR and in War we must be prepared to > > take > > > some casualties. It is the way we pay for Freedom! We do not get it by > > > giving up our freedom or by having everyone treated like criminals. > Where > > > are the background check for car drivers licences? > > > > > > It is just my view and I do respect your right to have yours. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Vern > > > > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following > any > > > advice in this forum.]---- > > > > > > And, I do respect old Ben Franklin. He was fortunate to live in a time > > > where black was black, and white was white. Open up your eyes!!! The > > > rules > > > have changed. There are none so blind as those who will not see! You > > most > > > likely object to the fact that you only have a 25% chance of sneaking > your > > > concealed weapon onto an airplane because of the new security measures > > > they've enacted since 9-11. I love America, not because she takes away > my > > > freedoms, but because she gives me the freedom to feel safe. When > > > individuals out there try to take away my safety, I love America because > > > she > > > acts to stop their actions. Open your eyes! We will never have the > > > freedoms we had only one year ago. Would you like to have it be the way > > it > > > was on 9-11....Over...and Over....and Over? > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================================== > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > > > > ================================================================== > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > > > > > > ================================================================== > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > > > > > > ================================================================== TO UNSUBSCRIBE go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm
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