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I guess my Coupe was abnormal.  It actually flew like the book says it
should.  58 mph was fall out of the sky speed-throttle off.  I hear some
of
these 45-48 mph still flying speeds and wonder what you've done to make
the
plane outperform the published specifications.

Larry


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From: "Hartmut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MAGIC VAC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Ralph.Maria Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ercoupe Hangar Flying"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Slowest Cruise Speeds


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>
> Larry. Check your airspeed meter. I can fly my Coupe at 45 MPH with
tanks
half empty and just me in it
> (190 ##) - no stall , full throttle though.
> To repeat the story of our second Coupe: That one had an airspeed meter
showing bullshit , someone put
> a worthless piece of ยง$%t into his plane just to save some money. arghh.
landing that plane at speeds
> around 65 was only possible with full power on final. After replacing
the
airspeed meter  normal
> readings appeared and normal behavior of the Coupe too.
> I tried several times to land the plane at 60 - 70 like the book wants
it - all that ended just in a
> very fast decent and a hard bounce. No good.
> God knows what speed I was really flying. I had to hold 80 on final. to
fly a normal approach. Of
> course these 80 MPH were just a fiction - something what the airspeed
meter was making up.
>
> I think  it is a very good idea to have the airspeed meter checked from
time to time especially since
> the coupe starts sinking when reaching lower speeds .
>
> By the way . I believe this tendency to sink is just the trade off
needed
by design  to keep the coupe
> in a controllable flying condition at low speeds.  The Cessnas might be
better sail planes but they
> probably stall then more abrupt, while Weick's planes are just gently
lowering the noses and just lose
> altitude.
>
> If you know what to expect - I think Weick's planes are easier to deal
with.
>
> So you might come down fast and land hard instead of stalling the plane
on
final - make your own
> judgment.
> (oh yes, I know Cessnas have flaps and ercoupes don't , I see it more
like
this: Cessnas need flaps and
> Ercoupes don't)
>
> Hartmut
>
> MAGIC VAC wrote:
>
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> > If I had tried to fly around at 50 ias, I'd be on the ground.  I get
so
> > tired of you guys telling me that you fly at 50, cause for me to do
that
I'd
> > have had to be at full throttle just to keep from falling out of the
sky.
> > It certainly wouldn't have been fun.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ralph.Maria Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Ercoupe Hangar Flying" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 8:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Slowest Cruise Speeds
> >
> > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before
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> > >
> > >
> > > I'm with Hartmut.
> > >
> > > I can fly around at below 50mph IAS all day and not
> > > lose altitude with the correct throttle setting.  Of
> > > course that wouldn't be considered a normal cruise,
> > > but it's certainly possible.
> > >
> > > The original poster seemed to want to fly in cruise
> > > with his buddies with their slower airplanes.  This is
> > > easily done (70-80 mph) with no harm to anything
> > > except your sanity, you will be bored silly at those
> > > speeds.  The Coupes make much better use of their
> > > ponies than most aircraft.
> > >
> > > As for "falling out of the sky" at lower airspeeds,
> > > why propagate that myth??  The Coupes sink more than
> > > the notorious Cessna floaters that we are all trained
> > > on, but that simply means it takes a couple of flights
> > > to learn new habits.  I quickly came to appreciate the
> > > Coupes' characteristics and now dislike the Cessnas'
> > > tendency to resist landing.  My landings are
> > > consistently much better with the Coupes.
> > >
> > > ----------------------------
> > > From: Hartmut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To:
> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Slowest Cruise Speeds
> > >
> > > That does not make sense.
> > > When flying slow , the engine does not generate much
> > > heat, the cowl
> > > flaps on a Coupe are wide open all
> > > the time and I doubt a extreme nose high attitude is
> > > given at speeds at
> > > around 85 MPH....
> > > I find my Coupe extreme nose high with 45 MPH, but
> > > would not consider
> > > this a practical low speed flying
> > > technique.
> > > All other Speeds should allow for sufficient cooling
> > > in regard to the
> > > power setting.
> > >
> > > Hartmut
> > >
> > >
> > >
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