Hey Bill

Alpine <http://www.washington.edu/alpine/> is developed by the University
of Washingon. It is a successor to Pine <http://www.washington.edu/pine/>,
which was a purely text-based mailer designed to run on a Linux/UNIX
terminal. All commands are therefore via keyboard, no mouse clicks. It is
fast and pretty powerful, but doesn't do pretty rich-text stuff. It's all
just good old plain-text.
This is for purists!

Vim <http://www.vim.org/about.php> is a powerful text editor, based on the
old 'vi' which was de-facto on *NIX systems. Again, for purists ;)



On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Bill Holmes <[email protected]> wrote:

> I would be interested to know about Alpine and Vim.   I am a power
> emailer.   That's actually why one main reason why I liked Gmail from the
> beginning, aside from its huge (at the time) capacity, was that it was web
> based.  I had reached the conclusion in 2004 that web based email was
> better and more secure than the desktop clients I had been using.  Mostly
> Pegasus as I recall.  I thought Pegasus was great but I wanted to migrate
> to a web service.
>
> Anyway as a desktop laptop user I already have lots of space.  For me,
> having to click several hundred extra clicks a day just to accomplish the
> same work I am getting done now is not an improvement.  *i understand
> that others accessing gmail through phones etc may like the trade-off and
> they are probably in a large majority.   italics are completely  accidental.
> *
>
> **
> *have a peaceful day,*
> *Bill*
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Marko Vukovic <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill
>>
>> There are some keyboard shortcuts that may help here. Shift-Tab will take
>> you back into the upper bar, or Ctrl-Shift-t for To:, Ctrl-Shift-c for Cc:
>> and Ctrl-Shift-b for Bcc. Once you have verified addresses, Tab back to the
>> message window.
>> I know you'd love to have the addresses visible but that's the next best
>> thing I can think of that doesn't involve mouse-clicks.
>>
>> Of course, if you were truly a power email user, you'd be using 
>> Alpine<http://www.washington.edu/alpine/>and
>> Vim <http://www.vim.org/> to edit :P
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Bill Holmes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hello Zack,
>>> The point is I don't want or need any more "space." I need my text tools
>>> visible at all times. I like to see all my recipients, in case i need to
>>> add one or delete one. I want to keep my current compose experience. I need
>>> this more than I need space.
>>>  Is there some way I can see all of my recipients including their email
>>> addresses when i have multiple recipients?  I have recipients who have
>>> several different email addresses and the new compose experience only lists
>>> them by name.  I am a power email user but now  I am lost.
>>>  Bill
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