It is true that once the seed is planted, the employee might leave. But
unless that employee lives in a cave, it doesn't take much to realize
that there is a demand. The issue is do they really want to move. If
they are young and smart and energetic, they should be able to demand a
good salary. It used to be the only way to get a higher salary due to
'maximum percentile' allowed per year. Yeah right for the rank and
file. It doesn't apply to top echelon. If a company is insecure about
holding their staff then they have to make sure they are happy, both
salary wise and environment wise. As far as this particular posting is
concerned, I have no interest because it is Massachusetts, and I have no
desire to travel either the Everett Turnpike or Rte 93 on a daily basis
and pay Mass income tax. No thank you! Tell me I can work at home then
maybe.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce McCulley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 2:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Linux Persons Needed
>
> Chester Martel wrote:
>
> > If employees are looking a posting on the list won't make it more
> > tempting just one less place to look. If they have internet access
> they
> > have a lot of access to jobs anyway.
>
> I was thinking more of the folks who might be fairly content, but
> start
> seeing lots of job postings on the list and start thinking the grass
> might
> be greener on the other side. If I were an employer I'd not be
> worried
> about the dissatisfied employees so much as I'd be concerned about
> keeping the satisfied ones feeling that way - making them think
> there's
> a strong job market might give them an inflated idea of their own
> value.
> I'd be particularly concerned if I had a tight budget and didn't want
> to
> compete in an inflationary job market. My response would likely be
> to discourage participation in the list. (Yeah, that's PHB thinking,
> but
> why give them ammunition while we're trying to undermine them? They
> might put it to more effective use then just shooting themselve in the
> foot!)
>
> > ...I do not disagree that it can be a
> > nuissance for those that have limited bandwith to be bothered by
> this
> > type of stuff. It doesn't appear to be to prevalent right now.
>
> It's already too much for the limited bandwidth of my Mk.I eyeballs.
> I've been getting a couple of hundred emails a day recently, mostly
> from this group (BUN traffic, future of linux, private mails sent to
> the
> group, etc all included). That's too much.
>
> At the present rate I'd vote to ban the traffic, if I had to choose.
> I was
> willing to seek some alternative, but if there is no such inclination
> elsewhere
> count me against the traffic. BTW, I consider it very telling that
> the two
> favorable votes immediately before my response both admitted bias due
> to recent posts - that suggests that the level *IS* prevalent.
>
> --Bruce McCulley
>
>
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bruce McCulley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 1:36 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Linux Persons Needed
> > >
> > > I have mixed feelings about job postings to the list.
> > >
> > > It's a two-edged sword, it's good for employees looking to move
> > > and employers looking to hire, but it might be a strong negative
> for
> > > employers not wanting their employees to be tempted.
> > >
> > > More personally, since I have no interest in such posts, they add
> > > noise
> > > devoid of signal to my input queue.
> > >
> > > Since there seem to be quite a few such posts, and they may be
> > > becoming
> > > more frequent, perhaps there should be an alternative to mail on
> the
> > > list. I'm
> > > thinking of some sort of a BBS, would it make sense for GNHLUG to
> host
> > > a facility for posting job openings onto a web server (with
> expiration
> > > dates,
> > > please!)? Or is this making a mountain out of a molehill?
> > >
> > > --Bruce McCulley
> > >
> > > Cole Tuininga wrote:
> > >
> > > > Randy Edwards wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I don't know how others feel (and would be curious to know)
> but
> > > the way
> > > > > I see it, a one-time *Linux-related* job posting is entirely
> > > appropriate.
> > > > >
> > > > > But I'm somewhat biased, as I'll soon be looking for such a
> > > position.:-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone else have strong opinions one way or the other?
> > > >
> > > > My two cents would also have to be that it's fine (so long as
> the
> > > list
> > > > doesn't get flooded) but I too am biased. We sent one out
> > > yesterday.
> > > > 8)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jeff: Are we allowed to cheat on this exam?
> > > > Prof Hatcher: Not if I catch you.
> > > >
> > > > Cole Tuininga
> > > > Network Admin
> > > > Trade Services, Inc
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > (603) 427-1100
> > > >
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