On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Jeffry Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Tom Rauschenbach wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Derek Martin wrote:
> > > On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Karl J. Runge wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > That's simply absurd.  Linux is precisely what got me where I am today.
> > > > > It is how I learned Unix, and how I became a successful Unix system
> > > > > administrator.  Unix admins make more than Windows admins, except perhaps
> > > > > if they can afford to go through the rather expensive NT certification
> > > > > programs, which these people almost certainly can't.
> > > > > 
> > > > > One has to wonder if you don't post such messages just to start flame
> > > > > wars, given the obvious preference for Linux amongst the people on this
> > > > > list...
> > > > 
> > > > Hey, look around a bit more thoughtfully. People besides computer
> > > > scientists, programmers, and sys admins use computers!! Think of
> > > > clerks, data entry, POS users, memo writers. 
> > > 
> > > If this is what you're talking about, which admittedly is not how I
> > > interpreted the message, then you still can get AbiWord, WordPerfect
> > > Office, Applixware or Star Office, which are similar enough to Microsoft
> > > Office that you can learn how to use office suite software on them.  
> > > However, if these machines really are very low end, none of those
> > > applications will run very well, as they're all resource pigs. 
> > > 
> > > But on the other hand, as I've already pointed out, they won't run any
> > > better under Windows on the same hardware.  Quite possilby they'll run
> > > worse, or not at all.
> > > 
> > > > Now if we could only get staroffice, (or similar free windows-ish
> > > > looking thing, e.g. kde/gnome) to run on these 486's it would be even
> > > > closer!
> > > 
> > > AFAIK, they will run on a 486.  The primary show stopper on such hardware
> > > is usually lack of memory.  But I may be mistaken on that count.
> > 
> > I doubt that you are mistaken.  My lowly Pentium133 is never CPU bound unless
> > I'm rebuilding a kernel.  But loading StarOffice is an excercise in paging. 
> > I've got 64 meg.
> > 
> 
> Abiword and gnumeric should run OK.  I suspect Wordperfect & Applix
> will, as they run as separate pieces (haven't actually tried it).  SO
> is a pig, because it copies MS Office down to the bloat, bugs, and bad
> help.  Other than that, it's a decent program ;-).
> 
> 
> While you can run Windows 95 on a 486 (I admit, I used to in my
> unenlightened days).  However, you can't buy Win95 now, nor Office 95.
> You can strip down your Linux+X+office suite to the minimum to work.
> It wasn't office, but at the LBS, I had Apache, MySQL, Samba, nfs, X,
> and KDE all running as the server on a P100 with 40MB of memory.  It
> served SAMBA faster than an NT box despite all the rest.  

Someone donated a 486 to my wife.  I justed booted it to learn that it had
Win3.1 and 6 meg.  IT SCREAMS!  Why oh why did people think Win95 was an
improvement ?  I can't wait to put more memory in this puppy and run Linux!




> 
> 
> jeff
> 
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> Jeffry Smith      Technical Sales Consultant     Mission Critical Linux
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> Thought for today:  The opossum is a very sophisticated animal.  It doesn't even get 
>up
> until 5 or 6 PM.
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