On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Tom Rauschenbach wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Derek Martin wrote:
> > On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Karl J. Runge wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's simply absurd. Linux is precisely what got me where I am today.
> > > > It is how I learned Unix, and how I became a successful Unix system
> > > > administrator. Unix admins make more than Windows admins, except perhaps
> > > > if they can afford to go through the rather expensive NT certification
> > > > programs, which these people almost certainly can't.
> > > >
> > > > One has to wonder if you don't post such messages just to start flame
> > > > wars, given the obvious preference for Linux amongst the people on this
> > > > list...
> > >
> > > Hey, look around a bit more thoughtfully. People besides computer
> > > scientists, programmers, and sys admins use computers!! Think of
> > > clerks, data entry, POS users, memo writers.
> >
> > If this is what you're talking about, which admittedly is not how I
> > interpreted the message, then you still can get AbiWord, WordPerfect
> > Office, Applixware or Star Office, which are similar enough to Microsoft
> > Office that you can learn how to use office suite software on them.
> > However, if these machines really are very low end, none of those
> > applications will run very well, as they're all resource pigs.
> >
> > But on the other hand, as I've already pointed out, they won't run any
> > better under Windows on the same hardware. Quite possilby they'll run
> > worse, or not at all.
> >
> > > Now if we could only get staroffice, (or similar free windows-ish
> > > looking thing, e.g. kde/gnome) to run on these 486's it would be even
> > > closer!
> >
> > AFAIK, they will run on a 486. The primary show stopper on such hardware
> > is usually lack of memory. But I may be mistaken on that count.
>
> I doubt that you are mistaken. My lowly Pentium133 is never CPU bound unless
> I'm rebuilding a kernel. But loading StarOffice is an excercise in paging.
> I've got 64 meg.
>
Abiword and gnumeric should run OK. I suspect Wordperfect & Applix
will, as they run as separate pieces (haven't actually tried it). SO
is a pig, because it copies MS Office down to the bloat, bugs, and bad
help. Other than that, it's a decent program ;-).
While you can run Windows 95 on a 486 (I admit, I used to in my
unenlightened days). However, you can't buy Win95 now, nor Office 95.
You can strip down your Linux+X+office suite to the minimum to work.
It wasn't office, but at the LBS, I had Apache, MySQL, Samba, nfs, X,
and KDE all running as the server on a P100 with 40MB of memory. It
served SAMBA faster than an NT box despite all the rest.
jeff
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Thought for today: The opossum is a very sophisticated animal. It doesn't even get up
until 5 or 6 PM.
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